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[edit] Welcome, JLMadrigal!

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[edit] Your edit to User talk:Curps

According to the block log for your user name, you were never blocked. Were you logged in at the time? - CobaltBlueTony 13:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Working now

I can edit now, but I WAS blocked and I WAS logged in.

tx JLMadrigal 11:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wiktionary links?

Is it possible to link to a wiktionary definition in a wikipedia article? If not, is it in the cards? Would it be technically feasable to redirect definition type links automatically to wiktionary? JLMadrigal 13:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi JLMadrigal! You can have a look at Wikipedia:Wiktionary. Redirection automatically out from Wikipedia is confusing though, and my understanding is that a redirect to a related encyclopedic article or a disambiguation page is preferred. --TuukkaH 13:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] copyright issue

I have given permission for the Restitution Transfer and Recoupment article to be continued both in the "Copyright Problems" section and on the original website - as requested, but it is still listed as a possible copyright violation. Should I be concerned that the article will be deleted permanantly, or will someone be providing an update about the article's status soon? JLMadrigal 11:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I made a large note on Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2006 September 18/Articles. You can restore the article if you want, but make a note at the top of the article's talk page that copyright has been released, and it shouldn't be tagged as a copyvio without discussing it with you first. Daniel.Bryant 11:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Communistic experiments and central control (i.e. Soviet Politbureau, Five year plan)

In Anarchism, I noted that "Communistic experiments are said to both require and result in greater central control (i.e. the Soviet Politbureau and the Five year plan)." If the USSR doesn't provide sufficient proof, I am willing to elaborate. JLMadrigal 12:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't agree less, they do require and result in greater central control. However, there were two problems with your edits: one, it's "communist experiments", not "communistic". If you are speaking a language with german roots, you may confuse it with your own - I know I did back in the days. In Swedish, the adjective "communist" would be "kommunistisk". That is however a minor problem. The reason as to why I removed it was that it doesn't belong in the article on anarchism - it belongs in the article on communism, or possibly anarcho-communism. It's kinda like going to the article on libertarianism and pointing out that nazism leads to genocide. Oh, and one more thing: bring it up on the article's talk page (in this case, Talk:Anarchism) next time. I hope we got it sorted out now! Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 12:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe you meant to say, "I couldn't agree 'more'" instead of "I couldn't agree 'less'", which would have been a "major problem" - instead of a "minor problem" - had it been in the article itself. ;) I have moved the edit to the "Communism" section accordingly. Feel free to adjust the semantics to pro-Germanic rather than pro-Celtic flavor. But keep in mind that English prides itself on its linguistic flexibility. JLMadrigal 12:39, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 Presidential Debates in NH

I am fairly certain these have been moved from April to June to accommodate the top-tier candidates' schedules. Twalls 15:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing a table link

How do I go about replacing an item in a table used in various articles?

I would like to replace the link to Republican Candidates' Beliefs in the "United States presidential election, 2008" table found on the bottom of each candidate's page with 2008 Republican presidential candidates, and add the one for 2008 Democratic presidential candidates. The existing link is biased. JLMadrigal 12:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, the table is transcluded to the pages from Template:United States presidential election, 2008 navigation. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 14:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding "Exploratory Committees"

You're invited to comment at Template talk:United States presidential election, 2008 navigation, on this proposal:

Proposed Deletion of category "Exploratory" and "Declared" for individuals filing with FEC.

And please note this argument on the same talk page. Exploratory equals Candidate.

Best regards, Yellowdesk 07:03, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malicious edits

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Two questions:

1) What is the authority needed and procedure for limiting an article to registered edits?
2) What is the procedure for investigating and possibly removing registered editors for vandalism and malicious edits?

JLMadrigal 12:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

  1. An administrator can semi-protect an article to limit it to edits by established users (those with accounts over 4 days old). Other users can request semi-protection (or other sorts of protection, like full or move protection) at WP:RFPP. Semi-protection is mostly used to stop persistent vandalism by anonymous users; see Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy.
  2. User accounts can't be deleted, but an account can be blocked from making edits. In most, but not all, cases, blocks are due to vandalism. Generally speaking, the user is first warned on their user talk page (anyone, even if they don't have an account, can add a warning; see WP:UTM for information on how to do this); if vandalism continues after a 'final' warning, any admin can block the user concerned (and non-admins can request such a block at WP:AIV). Other sorts of block are often conducted via the administrator's incident noticeboard; in all cases, it takes an administrator to block an account.
    Hope that helps! --ais523 12:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ron Paul Medicare

I restored this addition because that did appear in that newspaper, I gave the citation, and sources do not have to be online to be included in Wikipedia (although of course that's preferable). If anyone has access to a periodical database or library, they can look at the article in question. I included the information from that article because it's pretty important and I haven't seen him address it elsewhere. If he does, a better citation can be inserted.--Gloriamarie 03:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox edit

I just wanted to let you know I removed Category:United States presidential election, 2008 from your sandbox, because it appeared in the category's listing, which I'm sure was not your intention.--JayJasper 18:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. JLMadrigal 11:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] summary in intro to Ron Paul

Hi, would you mind responding to the concerns regarding that particular summary that I've posted to the talk page. Thanks. --Proper tea is theft 20:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] your edit to universal health care

I "reverted" your edit, adding free to the definition. That would be true for "Beveredgian" style systems of unconditional free provision, but would exclude a lot of European systems categorized commonly as "universal", e.g. Germany, France or the Netherlands. And those countries are listed below as "universal"..... If the free condition is added to the definition, many countries would have to be erased from the list, and I guess in fact the majority of the European countries Jonas78 23:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paul's internet popularity

That was an excellent idea for a new section and the third paragraph of the intro. Good thinking! ←BenB4 00:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unable to edit

Over the last couple of days, every time I try to edit the Ron Paul page, I get this message. JLMadrigal 12:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC){{helpme}}

That is a problem either with your computer, or with your ISP I'm afraid. We are unable to help. KTC 12:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ron Paul pro-life

Clarification: Paul believes Constitutional amendments must be done at federal level; they cannot be done at the state level. It's amazing how the reason you give changes every time you give an explanation.--Gloriamarie 02:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ron Paul Revolution

Ron Paul Revolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ron_Paul_Revolution#Ron_Paul_Revolution

If you have time I would like to hear your comments on this page. Thank you.--Duchamps comb (talk) 00:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] January 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ron Paul presidential campaign, 2008. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. You're going around in circles with this voting record change. I haven't reverted it once, but multiple other editors have, including Paul supporters. You need to stop re-adding this text, because you're over the 24 hour limit of reverts on this article and you're not compromising or adjusting the wording on the talk page.

--- tqbf 14:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

An "edit war". Interesting. I thought I was just setting the record straight. If you're as concerned about putting in the proper citations, and agree that Paul's voting record is at odds with these claims of racism, as you have stated in Talk:Ron Paul presidential campaign,_2008#Is_this_WP:OR.3F, perhaps you would be so kind as to put them in for me, so I don't get booted. JLMadrigal (talk) 17:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't have a citable source that says that Paul's record doesn't betray his racism, so, even though I agree with you about his voting record, I can't edit the article to say that. This happens all the time on Wikipedia; the standard is verifiability, not "truth". Were it otherwise, I'd be writing that Paul is a neo-confederate crackpot.
I bet you can find a reasonable cite about Paul's voting record; I don't think you just made that sentiment up, and I feel like I've heard it too. When you find it, I'll defend its inclusion. Make sure when you write it into the article, you write "according to such-and-such, Paul's voting record contains...".
Note that 3RR doesn't mean you have to stop editing! It just means you should be really careful about reverting other people's edits today (just like me; I got warned yesterday). --- tqbf 17:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ron Paul presidential campaign, 2008. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. :

Please resolve this on Talk instead of by reverting things; you're at the 24 hour limit on reverts now. If you can explain your changes on Talk and answer questions, I won't gripe to admins when you revert things. But you don't seem to be doing that.

--- tqbf 01:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Tell that to your editor friends. if you were consistent, you would also be complaining to them for reverting my edits without comment. BTW I DID comment immediately after I made the change. Looks like you don't sleep (or work). Do you have a vested interest in this smear campaign? JLMadrigal (talk) 01:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
You can look me up; unlike you, I'm not anonymous, and my name is on my user page. Make you own determination about how much I work. Consider that insulting me is not leaving me less inclined to contest the contents of this article, and please note that I haven't accused you of "not working" or "smearing". If you think another editor is violating WP:3RR, please see WP:ANI for instructions on how to correct them. At the moment, your comments have not inspired me to help you out more than that. Please stop reverting edits. --- tqbf 01:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
So you're telling me that the following statements by you:
"...Paul's record doesn't betray his racism" and "I'd be writing that Paul is a neo-confederate crackpot."
doesn't betray your blatent bias? Since I began this article in March, I've been spending long hours making sure that the public learns about this great man. And I believe I've helped his cause. Along you come and do your best to smear him, as you admit. I'm working now, so I don't have the time to keep up this article. Don't worry. Thanks to people like you, the vast majority of Americans haven't even heard of him. Who knows? They may even have been duped into thinking he is a racist. BTW, you haven't been "helping" at all. JLMadrigal (talk) 02:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
You think he's a great man. I think he's a crypto-racist crackpot. The beauty of Wikipedia is that neither of us will be happy with the final product, despite our evident biases. Remember: Wikipedia doesn't demand that we be NPOV, only that our work product end up that way. --- tqbf 03:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Foundation for Rational Economics and Education

A tag has been placed on Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Wikipedia:Business' FAQ for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Dougie WII (talk) 12:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Foundation for Rational Economics and Education

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. nancy (talk) 13:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] For the record

On February 3, 2008 I bagan an article entitled Foundation for Rational Economics and Education as a stub, and began collecting links and refining the article. After a few minutes, I received a message, which I read. The message said the following:

"A tag has been placed on Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Wikipedia:Business' FAQ for more information."
"If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Dougie WII (talk) 12:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC) "

So I proceded to place the required tag at the top of the page. However, the page was already gone. I'd say that deleting an article before it is started is a highly questionable practice. Please revise this practice and advise me once the problem is fixed. JLMadrigal (talk) 13:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Then I received the following message:

"Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. nancy (talk) 13:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

...and I returned to the article page which had the following message:

This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as a test page. See CSD G2.

If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice, but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself. If you created this page and you disagree with its proposed speedy deletion, please add:

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Administrators: check links, history (last), and logs before deletion.

Please consider placing the template:
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on the talk page of the author.


But the article was gone. So I began to restore the article, by bringing it up from "history".

But it was not in history either.

Please restore this article so that I may procede with my edits, and bring it up to Wikipedia standards. JLMadrigal (talk) 13:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Restored. If you don't deal with it quickly, it will probably be deleted again. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello JLMadrigal, sorry you have been having problems with your article. I'll try and help you out if I can. The best way to avoid the problems which you have described with Foundation for Rational Economics and Education is either to build the article as a sub-page of your userpage first and then copy it in to mainspace when it is finished, or when you create the article you can add an {{inuse}} tag at the top which will let people know you are working on it. It looks like the article was first deleted as advertising so if you recreate it you might want to mindful of that. Hope this helps to explain things a little & do please ask if you would like any help or would like me to review any recreated article before you post it in to mainspace. Good luck with your editing. Kind regards, nancy (talk) 14:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Nancy. I tagged the article {{underconstruction}}, and removed sections that seemed to promote the foundation. I am trying to keep the article as objective as possible without eliminating vital information about FREE. If you can think of any other modifications that may be helpful, I welcome your input. Regards, JLMadrigal (talk) 14:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I have give the article quite a severe copy-edit and on the basis of my changes I have removed the speedy deletion notices from it. The key things I changed were: 1. Removed biographical details about Ron Paul - the place for these are in his own article. 2. Removed overt opinion - for example the phrase "that have been, until recently, absent from public debate" 3. Removed parts of the NEFL section so that it now just states the facts of its founding and to note the TV program. There are still problems with the article - most importantly it lacks reliable sources so you are not quite out of the woods yet, but it now at least safe from speedy deletion so you have a bit of breathing space to sort out some good references. Best of luck, nancy (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Foundation for Rational Economics and Education

I have nominated Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Foundation for Rational Economics and Education. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Dougie WII (talk) 16:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello again Madrigal! I have done what I could on this article. I hope you have found one or two WP:RS over the past month that you can add this weekend. Thanks for all the help! John J. Bulten (talk) 20:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)