User talk:JimScott

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hello JimScott, and welcome to Wikipedia! Here are some recommended guidelines to help you get involved. Please feel free to contact me if you need help with anything. Best of luck and happy editing! Benjaminstewart05 20:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Getting started
Getting your info out there
Getting more Wikipedia rules
Getting help
Getting along
Getting technical

Contents

[edit] Schweizer brothers

Hello Jim. I checked my deletion log and realized that this specific deletion was a bit premature. I guess the reason for deletion was that the article was tagged for a speedy deletion by another user who thought that the brothers were not important enough. I reread it now and I find it perfect suitable to stay, however, it needs some rewording. I would prefer having sentences with remarkable or interesting reformulated so that they stick to the WP:NPOV guideline. So for now, I restored the article and put a cleanup tag on it, I think it will do. If you need any help, feel free to contact me (although I can't guarantee you that I will be able to answer soon, but there surely are lots of users who will be happy to help.) And I can restore the rest of the articles if you tell me their titles. Best regards and happy editing. --Tone 09:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, Tone. As regards restoration of the individual brothers, I suspect that won't be necessary. The reason is that although they contributed significantly to the aircraft world (not to mention the local community), now that I've had more time to research them, I believe they would prefer to remain as just three brothers who started a company that influenced the world in a positive way. JimScott 21:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CCC & RIT boxes

We have a guideline of one box per school on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Education/United States. The best work-around is to modify the templates in question to allow parameterized options. If you need help doing this, let me know. I'm glad to help. --NThurston 13:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see that guideline listed. Should I add it? Also, wouldn't parameterizing the UserBox template(s) cause problems for everyone already using said UserBox templates? [Because their existing reference to the UserBox would not have the supporting parameterization code.] Frankly, I was only interested in differentiating between "attending" and "graduating" since they carry different connotations. Will the "graduated from" UserBoxes remain in Wikipedia (ie, still work on my UserPage) now that they have been removed from the Edu UserBox article? JimScott 01:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Would you be able to offer an opinion on a change proposal I made earlier (User_talk:UBX/Golfer)? Thanks. JimScott 01:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
You are right. I will add that to the list of guidelines. Parameterization won't mess things up if it's done right. There might be some clean-up needed on existing references. There are others that have done this well. I'll see if I can fix it for you. As a general policy, if someone doesn't like the current userbox, I encourage them to edit it (or at least discuss it) before creating a new one. That keeps things simple, which is helpful to all of us.
Edu UserBox is just a list. Being there (or not) doesn't provide any protection, nor does it mean that things will be deleted. --NThurston 15:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I have added the grad switches {{User CCC|grad}} & {{User RIT|grad}}. You should consider redirecting {{User grad CCC}} & {{User grad RIT}}.
P.S. I fixed golf to be consistent with other boxes (like futsal).--NThurston 16:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFI in editing

Hello, User:Wikid77 here. I've noticed you've been getting some RFI from nearby transmitters when amending articles. However, I am adjusting to your frequency, and have experienced the same RFI from those sources, when trying to save input data. Staying on the same wavelength, in this view, I see the RFI as related to synaptic problems in a cerebral cortex (aka "psychotic behavior") when using devices to expand data into CP/M ala GK. You wouldn't want unstable transmitters purposely jamming your signals everywhere you try to broadcast more data, so it is best to broadcast for a while in a quieter region, with less RFI, where transmitted signals will most likely be noted by higher-powered tuners and receivers. In time, RFI tends to fade, and then broadcasts can resume on the original frequency. Peace. -Wikid77 23:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re email

Yeah, I guess it would be best to just ignore it. Some mysteries aren't likely to be enlightening even after they're solved! Melchoir 20:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re forgot to annotate

Hi Benjamin - recently edited an article and forgot to fill in "Edit Summary". Eeeek! Is there a way to edit that field in the database (ie, it should read "added CNet News and AT&T press release links re the new AT&T launch; and date of that launch"). If not I suppose no one will care but I like to dot the eyes and cross the tees IYKWIM. Thanks.   P.S. Do you think the subject of this Q&A might merit a line or two in the How to edit a page article for future reference? JimScott 17:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't think that there is a way of doing this, and given that the edit probably wasn't the addition of questionable material or a large amount of material, at this point I don't think it matters. If you look in edit histories, there aren't that many summaries. Yes you're meant to do it but I don't think there is a way to edit the edit summary post save. B.S. 05 18:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for the feedback. JimScott 21:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE what do the numbers mean?

And here I am again. I was looking at my WatchList article and found some numbers in parenthesis. For example:

 (diff) (hist) . . AT&T‎; 17:31 . . (+435) . . JimScott (Talk | contribs)

What does the "+435" mean? I noticed some of the numbers are negative. Thanks again. JimScott 20:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Please see Help:Watching pages about half way down. It basically tells you how many bytes up or down the content of the page has gone. B.S. 05 18:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah. Now alles klar as my German friends are fond of saying. :-) Thanks again. JimScott 21:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia New York Meet-Up

NEW YORK CITY MEET UP!!
NEW YORK CITY MEET UP!!

Howdy! Please come to the First Annual New York Wikipedian Central Park Picnic. R.S.V.P. @ Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
--David Shankbone 19:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jim - I don't know you, but I just saw your RSVP on NYC Meetup page and thought I'd say a word on your wife's behalf.... I'm also on the eve of my 32nd, and I'm not sure if the Elmsford Days Inn (yes, I know the place!) is better or worse than a Wiki picnic, but I'd probably kill you. However, I don't know Jennifer's - is it good? Cheers, and happy anniversary Tvoz |talk 00:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Correcting typos on talk pages

Hi Jim! Please do not edit other users comments, as you did herehere. See Talk page guidelines#Editing_comments. Thanks! --Stephan Schulz 09:21, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

hallo Stephan! Sorry, force of habit. Alles ist jetzt klar! (As my friend Jens would say). FYI BTW, you linked to my personal Talk page instead of The Great Global Warming Swindle Talk page (I assume that is the article you meant). I would have fixed the link but ... :-)) Sorry, again; could not resist. HEY! Interesting you are in computer science. During my first semester at university in 1972, I got a job writing computer aided instruction tutorials for organic chemistry using APL ( Ken Iverson) on an IBM 2741 connected by modem to another university's IBM 360. I still have that APL Selectric typeball in a box downstairs somewhere. I used to drive the organic chemistry professor nuts because even though I was in the engineering technology program (ie, nothing to do with organic chemistry, per se), I used to pass all his exams just on the wee bit of studying I was doing for the tutorials. Ach! The good old days! :-) JimScott 21:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I messed up the link, thanks for pointing that out. As for the good old day, I noticed that I really started understanding stuff once I was paid for teaching it ;-). --Stephan Schulz 21:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dialling

copied from Hu's talk page

Hi Hu ... not sure what category Dialling would go in. Went search of a list and got lost in the various articles on "the do's and don'ts of categorization". After twenty minutes of following links around Wikipedia I give up. What category do you think a word might fit in (ie, physics terms?) Is there a list of current categories that I can select something from? Thank you kindly in advance. JimScott 21:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

One can put it into a high level category like Category:Mathematics and leave it to somebody else who patrols the high level category to refine the categorization. However, you may be able to find an appopriate lower level category by scanning the high level category page and working down through the subcategories. Hu 00:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] recent edits to article on Patrick O'Rorke

"suggest you find a secondary source in which the spelling is different and cite that"

Would an article from his actual home town do?

http://cornafean.com/Patrick_O'Rorke.htm

Please note that Mr. O'Rorke's name is spelled both ways in the article.

And this is a quote from the July 22nd email I received from Tommy (the Cornafean webmaster) when I asked about the spelling:

"In relation to the spelling of Colonel O'Rorke's name, yes the conventional spelling of his name is O'Rorke. The normal spelling of this name in the Cornafean area and Ireland in general is O'Rourke."

Will adding the Cornafean link be sufficient to satisfy the comment about the name spelling variant?

Please advise at your earliest convenience.

Thank you kindly.

And thank you kindly for future messages in which you sign your name (four tildes). This is more info than you had in the article, which is good, but I was hoping you could cite a Civil War history that uses the alternative spelling. What they call him in Ireland is really irrelevant to the English language article. (As an example, I'll bet the Japanese have yet another version of his name, but we don't mention that either.) If he used the spelling himself, or his family documents used it, or the Army has official documents with other spellings, that would be worth noting, just as would discrepancies in birth dates, causes of death, etc. Merely the possibility that someone else might spell his name differently is not worth noting. And I would not take evidence from a non-CW website that may or may not have been prepared carefully in regards to spelling. Hal Jespersen 21:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Argh! Sorry about that ... I usually do remember the tilde thing. I guess the stress of going 14 months without a job is starting to rattle me a wee bit; not to mention I shouldn't be working in the middle of the night, eh? Sorry again ... I digress.

I'm no Civil War buff (or a buff of any war really) ... and I certainly have no desire to question an actual authority on the subject ... but there are more than a few references that use "O'Rorke" and "O'Rourke" pretty much interchangeably in reference to the same person.

This underlines my thought that it would be prudent to mention the alternate spelling so folks know for an encyclopedic fact that both refer to the same gentleman. I must disagree in regard to the irrelevancy in an English language article since both the country of his birth and his adopted country would most likely be using the English language version of both this site and Google; which BTW shows search results for the same person ...

under "O'Rorke":

  Gettysburg National Military Park - Little Round Top: Colonel Patrick O'Rorke
  Colonel Patrick O’Rorke Memorial Bridge
  70 books using O'Rorke

under "O'Rourke":

  photo of Patrick Henry O'Rourke
  HistoryNet.com article on the regiments at Little Round Top
  The 20th Maine and Third Brigade on Little Round Top
  Who Saved Little Round Top? A Response to the Melcher Challenge
  Pickett and His Men by LaSalle Corbell Pickett
  6 Google-scanned books using O'Rourke

and finally, under both!

  Patrick's biography on his home town's web site
  National Irish Freedom Committee (Woodside, NY) article on O'Rourke
  Wikipedia article on the battle at Little Round Top
  Vincent's Brigade on Little Round Top
  photo of memorial in Gettysburg - note caption vs. stone!
  Draw the Sword ... Focus: the 140th New York
  Irish-American Landmarks: A Traveler's Guide by John A Barnes

which just further illustrates the fact that someone doing research needs to know about both spelling variations to get complete information. JimScott 04:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Being still a newbie, I find this going back and forth on the Talk pages confusing not to mention duplicate content. Is there a protocol as to which Talk page we should stay on for a single thread? Since I started the thread on your Talk page, shouldn't we just stay here? Please elucidate. Thank you kindly. JimScott 04:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

P.P.S. FWIIW, according to a retired engineer I worked with for quite a while, in this type of situation the Japanese (in the 50's at least) commonly used the English name as given (or spelled out in Katakana). He said usually they called him "Richardson-san" when he was there in the late 50's as an electrical engineering consultant rebuilding / updating several Japanese airports (aside from other things before they realized he spoke Japanese  :-). JimScott 04:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, I had no idea there were so many uses of variants. I normally restrict my research to printed secondary sources, but I see the confusion (including an article I wrote, but one in which others have been dabbling recently). There should be a footnote on the guy's name right at the top of the article and there should be a redirect article with the other spelling. On the Japanese thing, it was a casual remark, but I was thinking about how they typically modify American brand names, such as McDonald's, which comes out like MickDonaroo.
Yes, Wikipedia has an odd communications format. The procedure we use is to bounce back and forth between talk pages with replies. Otherwise, I would be forced to keep your talk page in my watchlist (or mine yours) and I really have no interest in doing that. You also can send me e-mail directly by clicking on the yellow box at the top of my user page. I did not realize you are a newbie, so welcome! Hal Jespersen 11:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New York City Meetup

The Brooklyn Bridge New York City Meetup


Next: Saturday November 3rd, Brooklyn Museum area
Last: 8/12/2007
This box: view • talk • edit

The agenda for the next meetup includes the formation of a Wikimedia New York City local chapter. Hope to see you there!

[edit] You're invited!

...to the next New York City Meetup!

New York City Meetup


Next: Sunday January 13th, Columbia University area
Last: 11/3/2007
This box: view • talk • edit

In the morning, there are exciting plans for a behind-the-scenes guided tour of the American Museum of Natural History.

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to discussing meta:Wikimedia New York City issues (see the last meeting's minutes).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 01:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits

I'm sure you've been around Wikipedia long enough to realize that an edit like this is never going to fly. I understand your opinion, but it can't be placed into articles like that. MastCell Talk 21:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New mailing list

There has been a mailing list created for Wikipedians in the New York metropolitan area (list: Wikimedia NYC). Please consider joining it! Cbrown1023 talk 21:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You are invited!

New York City Meetup


Next: Sunday March 16th, Columbia University area
Last: 1/13/2008
This box: view • talk • edit

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, and have salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

Well also make preparations for our exciting Wikipedia Takes Manhattan event, a free content photography contest for Columbia University students planned for Friday March 28 (about 2 weeks after our meeting).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

You're also invited to subscribe to the public Wikimedia New York City mailing list, which is a great way to receive timely updates.
This has been an automated delivery because you were on the invite list. BrownBot (talk) 03:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NYC Meetup: June 1, 2008

New York City Meetup


Next: Sunday June 1st, Columbia University area
Last: 3/16/2008
This box: view • talk • edit

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, elect a board of directors, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

We'll also review our recent Wikipedia Takes Manhattan event, and make preparations for our exciting successor Wiki Week bonanza, being planned with Columbia University students for September or October.

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

Also, check out our regional US Wikimedia chapters blog Wiki Northeast (and we're open to guest posts).
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 23:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)