Talk:Jim Flaherty

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[edit] Husband and Wife share same electoral district

Christine is the member for Whitby-Ajax, not Whitby-Oshawa. There hasn't been a provincial election in Whitby-Oshawa yet so they cannot share the same riding.


Transplanted little box/table thing from the Tony Clement page. Not sure about the "28th Ministry" business -- can someone figure that out and alter it if appropriate?--206.248.133.87 17:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs a Photo

We need a image of Flaherty. Does anyone have one? PS- has anyone noticed the resemblance between Flaherty & Lou Costello? GoodDay 23:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Costello was taller. Given his performance as the Finance Minister I wonder if he is overcompensating for his shortness. Perhaps he suffers from this DSatYVR 17:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I hear Flaherty's really short. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chtimi (talk • contribs) 06:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Links to blog material and other sources

I have removed some questionable material linked to a blog and some other material. Are there any more reliable sources for this material? TIA --Tom 14:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

None of your deletions are blog related. Check again TIA DSatYVR (talk) 16:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Why do they have "blog" in the link? --Tom 18:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Diane Francis references

I've had the following references deleted. Why?

Reason 5: Tory Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, December 29, 2007

Canada Under Seige: Thanks Harper and Flaherty

DSatYVR (talk) 07:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More on Diane Francis as a reference

More on Diane Francis as a reference

Please feel free to add your comments on the WP:BLP page linked above. DSatYVR (talk) 16:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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I'll insert this commentary from the above WP:BLP page.
One editor in particular deleted citations from Diane Francis based on the fact the citations had the word 'blog' in the url. "Blog" in this case seems to be more of a newspaper marketing ploy than anything else. Here is another example of a "Blog" attached to a newspaper: Freakonomics
My point is the interpretation of WP:RS is too narrow in these cases.
Who Diane Francis is:

Diane Francis, Editor-at-Large of the Financial Post, is an entrepreneur, author, broadcaster, speaker and columnist. She became a columnist with the Financial Post in 1987, joined its Board of Directors in 1988 and became its Editor from 1991 to 1998 when the paper was bought and incorporated into the National Post. Diane has been a columnist for 25 years with the Toronto Star, Maclean's, the Southam newspaper chain and Sun newspaper chain as well as a regular broadcast commentator on business and politics.'

IMO Diane Francis answers to someone within the the National Post organization she works for should therefore be considered a reliable source in the same way as any other reporter in a reputable newspaper. I am seeking comments from other editors.DSatYVR (talk) 18:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The portion of WP:SPS which states "Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." seems to apply here. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Diane Francis is certainly a reliable source. In my opinion, however, Wikipedia an WP:RS in particular needs to be updated to reflect the realities of 2008. While it used to be generally an accurate stereotype to consider blogs as unreliable diary-like creations with no accountability, more and more blogs are being considered RS as more and more of them are being put together with the same sort of due diligence as "traditional" journalism. The above referenced Diane Francis blog is a prime example of this. I'm not saying all blogs should be rubber stamped, but I do feel restricting acceptability to those with third-party publication is simply not realistic in 2008. 23skidoo (talk) 07:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think whether this is a blog or not is the real issue. The real issue here is going around to find quotes attacking the subject of this article. Do printed encyclopedias do this? There are plenty of other citations from economists that one can draw on that take the other side on income trust taxation. I worked in the Department of Finance at the time and I know.Bdell555 (talk) 19:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Send Ontario's Homeless to Jail

The following citation was deleted from the "2002 Ontario PC leadership Bid" section. Not sure why. I've reinserted it for now pending an explanation.

Send Ontario's Homeless to Jail

DSatYVR (talk) 16:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)