Talk:Jim Carroll

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Jim was married to Rosemary Carroll, who later married Danny Goldberg. Rosemary is notable as an entertainment lawyer. She is also the one who suggested to a private investigator hired by Courtney Love that Kurt's death was possibly not a suicide. Thus, she is indirectly responsible for the "Kurt Cobain was murdered" theory. While this is not notable to Jim's article, I do find it interesting that Rosemary has connections to two famous heroin icons.

I don't see mention of Jim being married to Rosemary in this article, maybe someone could add it in who has better knowledge of the subject than I. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timewalk92 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Can we please remove the Auschwitz photo of Jim? It is upsetting to fans (who are starting to spread rumors), it is potentially destructive to his career, and it is not a representative photo of the man. As he stated on the date the photo was taken (at the Brooklyn Book Festival), he had been sick in bed for the previous week. It borders upon vicious to represent him this way. --Bristlecone (talk) 22:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I do not see a reason to remove the photo, and none of the above-mentioned reasons are valid. He posed for the photo. It's what the dude looks like. All the other photos are years old. --David Shankbone 22:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
The photo is what Jim looked like after being sick in bed for a week. I realize he agreed to let you take the photo. I watched you take it. Are you actively trying to harm Jim, or do you have some other intention?
While I'm asking, who decided this bio should be associated with gay/lesbian/bi/trans, and why?--Bristlecone (talk) 23:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have no opinion of Carrol, which is what makes my POV NPOV; you clearly have a POV here - which is to elevate him. I don't wish to elevate or lower him. I haven't read his work. The project decides the LGBT because of his history and a cited source saying he is LGBT. --David Shankbone 23:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Cited source? Where? It's certainly not mentioned in the bio. As for your NPOV, if you know nothing about him, how come you are so sure your photo is what he looks like? I see him all the time, and he is a friend of mine. That is not what he usually looks like. You are exploiting a bad situation for no apparent reason. And it does not help to start pointing a finger at me and accusing me of "elevating" anyone when you don't know me from Adam.--Bristlecone (talk) 23:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but you started pointing fingers above ("Are you actively trying to harm Jim, or do you have some other intention"), and you admit you are a friend of his, so it's a reasonable assumption you have a POV.
Regarding the LGBT issue, he wrote an autobiography that he was a gay hustler. So are you claiming he is not gay or bisexual? If so, you should produce a source where he states this. Alternatively, I can interview him on Wikinews and get him on the record and also re-shoot a photo. Either way, we can involve more people in the discussion if you wish. Like I said, I have no POV on this either way. --David Shankbone 23:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
For the record, being a male hustler does not mean a person is gay, and at no time anywhere has Jim ever said he is gay. Anyway, the idea of a re-shoot and interview is something to consider, but I will need to spend some time looking at your "credentials" before I can pitch the idea to Jim (as you know, he is finishing a novel, and as a rule he has not been granting interviews except to promote readings). Perhaps you can point me to some good examples that I can look at. Also, I assume you would familiarize yourself with Jim's work before interviewing him. In the meantime, can we please just remove the photo? --Bristlecone (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
You can look at my User page for any interviews. I don't see a reason to remove the photo, and if I do or don't interview him does not make much difference to me. The offer is to help him not me. Aside from that, I'm overwhelmed with interviews right now, including a trip to Israel for Wikimedia projects, so it wouldn't be this year regardless. If he is interested, let me know. --David Shankbone 00:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Are you saying that promotion of yourself is the reason the photo should remain on Jim Carroll's biography? What other purpose does it serve?--Bristlecone (talk) 16:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not going to bother to answer a "Are you still beating your wife" question. --David Shankbone 16:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)