Talk:Jim Baen

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Contents 1 Web References archive 2 Projects 3 "Acrimonious Departures"? 3.1 On the above allegation

[edit] Web References archive

• Talk:Jim Baen/Web References - the page contains citations from webpages that are likely to vanish someday. Call it insurance. // FrankB 07:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] "Acrimonious Departures"?

I've removed the following sentences:

However, Lackey, Moon and other authors have since acrimoniously left his company, citing complaints such as delayed payments and unprofessional treatment. Others of the forenamed authors vociferously dispute this version of events.

which were added in November 2005 by user 24.34.21.215 (talk · contribs). At least one of these assertions is obviously false; all of them controvene our (revised) WP:BLP policy because they are completely unsourced.

It is true that some successful Baen authors have moved to other publishers, but that is because they can get much bigger advances from other publishers. (Book publishers offer authors up-front payments, called advances, representing their royalties from a certain number of sales, then only pay further royalties if sales exceed that number. These days, successful authors tend to get advances corresponding to impossibly large numbers of sales, but no royalties after that. Baen Books offers small advances, but does pay sale-based royalties.) I don't have a citation for this; would anyone who does please add it to the article?

Cheers, CWC(talk) 16:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On the above allegation

I tagged an equivilent allegation on Baen's Books at least a week back with {{fact}} and none has been forthcoming. Further, as of a few minutes ago, this is a current list of the Baen Author's... which still includes the alledged disaffected M. Lackey, et al. The simplest explanation is as given above, or one similar to it—to wit, an author can only place so many titles with a given publisher in a given time frame, and being human and not tied to any illegal exclusivity contract, they shop a property around. Publisher 'B' seeing the authors success on the other label, adds a sweetener or just buys it first... no matter. The property is sold. Eric Flint for example never had a bad day with Baen, but still sold two River of War novels to the bigger house TOR. The third is being brought out by Baen, and so it goes.

Aaron Allston Poul Anderson Christopher Anvil Catherine Asaro Nancy Asire Robert Asprin Jim Baen Margaret Ball Elizabeth Bear Gregory Benford Nigel Bennett Ben Bova Marion Zimmer Bradley Poppy Z. Brite Mary Brown Lois McMaster Bujold Jaqueline Carey John F. Carr Paul Chafe Jack L. Chalker A. Bertram Chandler C. J. Cherryh Julie Cochrane Hal Colebatch Stoney Compton Rick Cook John Dalmas L. Sprague deCamp Virginia DeMarce Andrew Dennis Gordon R. Dickson Thomas M. Disch Chris Dolley James Doohan L. Warren Douglas David Drake Doranna Durgin Rosemary Edghill P. N. Elrod Linda Evans Philip Jose Farmer Bill Fawcett Leslie Fish Eric Flint Michael Flynn Judy Forward Robert L. Forward Leo Frankowski Dave Freer David Friedman Esther Friesner Randall Garrett Roberta Gellis James C. Glass Tom Godwin Arlene Golds Roland Green Martin Harry Greenberg Dave Grossman Ellen Guon Joe Haldeman Matthew Harrington Robert A. Heinlein P. C. Hodgell James P. Hogan Sarah Hoyt Dean Ing William H. Keith Jr. Caitlín R. Kiernan Jeffery D. Kooistra Paul Kozerski Tom Kratman Henry Kuttner Mercedes Lackey John Lambshead Joe R. Lansdale Keith Laumer Sharon Lee Murray Leinster Edward M. Lerner Holly Lisle Duncan Long Barry N. Malzberg Anne McCaffrey Charles C. McGraw Shirley Meier Steve Miller Elizabeth Moon Modean Moon Howard L. Myers Larry Niven Andre Norton Jody Lynn Nye Norvell W. Page Jerry Pournelle Cherie Priest Mike Resnick John Ringo Richard Roach Spider Robinson Joel Rosenberg Fred Saberhagen James H. Schmitz Martin Scott Michael Shea Charles Sheffield Mark Shepherd Robert Silverberg William Mark Simmons Cordwainer Smith L. Neil Smith Wen Spencer Ryk Spoor S. M. Stirling Charles Stross Travis S. Taylor Mark Tier Harry Turtledove Mark L. Van Name A. E. Van Vogt Vernor Vinge Karl Edward Wagner Lars Walker David Weber T. K. F. Weisskopf K. D. Wentworth Steve White Michael Z. Williamson Robert Charles Wilson Timothy Zahn Roger Zelazny

Current list snipped from webscriptions.net authors sidebar tonight. Note there are deceased authors on the list, reflecting Baen's policy of republishing good writers out of print. (Aside: If the above is NOT showing as four columns on your browser, please let me know about it ASAP! The technique may be an CSS extension not supported on all browsers, but we're not sure. Thanks!) // FrankB 07:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Coming across as one long list to me, not 4 columns. PeregrineV (talk) 06:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)