Talk:Jewish education

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Judaism Portal Jewish education is part of WikiProject Judaism, a project to improve all articles related to Judaism. If you would like to help improve this and other articles related to the subject, consider joining the project. All interested editors are welcome. This template adds articles to Category:WikiProject Judaism articles.
Project Judaism To-do: edit purge watch Here are some tasks you can do: Requests: Jewish and Biblical Units of Measurement or some such name, to include material of Ancient Hebrew units of measurement but also Talmudic units and use in Halacha (a la the Hebrew Wikipedia article he:מידות ומשקלות תורניים) Collaboration of the week { Cleanup: Jewish mythology - needs to be rewritten to be inline with our other mythology articles. Expand: Yom Ha'atzmaut - quite short for an article of such importance Wikiversity: School of Jewish Studies. Part of the new open content university, Wikiversity. Stubs: Category:Judaism stubs, Category:Tanakh stubs, Category:Synagogue stubs Update: Portal:Judaism is WikiProject Judaism's frequently updated portal. You can help make this the best portal on Wikipedia. Look at the talk page to see how you can help. Template loop detected: Template:WikiProject Judaism
Start	This article has been rated as start-Class on the quality scale.
Top	This article has been rated as top-importance on the importance scale.

[edit] Disputed

These refer, however, specifically to the commandments to love God. The obligation to teach Judaism to one's children is therefore rabbinic in origin. Not everyone agrees with this (e.g. Rashi). Actually IMO most people would not agree with this. eeemess 11:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep, the Shema refers to 'these words which I command you today'. You don't need to be a Rabbi to infer that that means all of Torah should be passed on, rather than the one specific commandment.Nomist 22:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Please define "these words" and "today". On what grounds are you saying that they refer to the Torah as a whole? Eeemess, can you show me the mitzvah in the Chinnuch and Sefer ha-Mitzvos? JFW | T@lk 23:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Number 22 in Maimonides. Are we seeing Jeremiah 31:33? ;) ems (not to be confused with the nonexistant pre-dating account by the same name) 16:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

If I hadn't heard this observation personally from a rather prominent British lamdan I would not have believed it. But there you have it. JFW | T@lk 23:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

All of Torah was in theory given at the same time at Sinai, no? Thus if it's talking about all words given 'today', it's all of Torah. That's how it seems to me (not that I subscribe to Torah minHaShamayim in any case :-) Nomist 00:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A few things

I wouldn't presume to be expert on this, but a few things I'd mention:

• The commandment to pass down the story of Passover at the seder, a pretty specific command to pass a piece of religious knowledge down the generations
• The present-day after-school "Hebrew schools" common in the U.S. at least, especially as a way of learning enough Hebrew for a bar mitzvah.
• Where and when governments have subsidized Jewish education. There is at least one interesting case where the generally conservative and anti-Semitic government of Imperial Russia subsidized at least one of the more liberal yeshivas, the one at Zhytomyr (not, by the way, currently mentioned in our article on Zhytomyr). - Jmabel | Talk 06:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Hebrew schools = Talmud Torah. Your example of "vehigadeta le-vincha" (concerning the seder) refers to one specific commandment, not to the Torah as a whole!

The Russians supporting "yeshivas" has been well documented, not just in Zhytomir but in Vilna just the same; Adam ha-Cohen tried to attract Israel Lipkin Salanter, who declined and fled Vilna to retreat in Kovno to avoid further pressure. JFW | T@lk 23:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)