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  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 12 - Various. Includes discusion on koans. : 1 Gospels not history paragraph; 2 Jews "lived in" the Diaspora??; 3 some sceptics; 3.1 Obsession; 3.2 Meaning of Scholars; 3.3 Oxymorons; 3.4 Existance; 3.5 Existance (continued); 3.5.1 Slander; 4 Rev of Bru; 5 AHistoricity of Jesus; 6 Jesus: The most famous person in history?; 7 WikiProject Jesus; 8 ToDo list; 9 A list of potential citations; 9.1 A list of critiques potentially disputing the historicity of Jesus; 10 What Name Should This Article be Under?; 11 Justification; 12 Proposed Change; 13 Revert Rule Enforcement; 14 A new section; 14.1 Votes; 14.1.1 Some Skeptics; 14.1.2 Christian to qualify Scholar; 14.2 New sentence; 14.2.1 (question 2 redefined); 15 Koans; 16 Koans - Poll; 16.1 Agree; 16.2 Disagree; 16.3 Disapprove of a poll; 17 Definitions of "koan"; 18 more blah blah blah; 19 Suggestion; 20 Comment; 21 Life and teaching according to the New Testament
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 13 - 1 What externally verified events?; 2 moved; 2.1 Picture of George W. Bush; 2.2 Restructuring; 2.3 Deletions; 2.4 Request for mediation; 2.5 Misleading edit summary; 2.5.1 ATTN: CheeseDreams; 2.6 ATTN: CHEESEDREAMS; 2.6.1 I am really trying to be serious and sincere here -- Explanation for CheeseDreams; 2.6.2 The historicity of Jesus; 2.7 No proof?; 2.8 Christianity's basic teachings; 2.9 Barnabas; 2.10 Edits by I834 and reverts by Alanyst; 2.11 Who did/does Jesus say he was/is?; 2.12 explanation for deletion; 2.13 lunisolar trivia; 2.14 Image of Jesus; 2.15 Page move; 2.16 Bible Citations re Witnesses; 2.17 Meaning of "3rd day"; 2.18 removed about 30k from the history of Jesus section; 2.19 Request for Support; 2.20 A Course in Miracles
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 14 - 1 deletion of material on "pagan godmen"; 2 Jesus was not a Jew!; 3 Jesus and Senseless Life(see "No Proof"); 4 Dating System; 5 Preachers; 6 3RR violations; 7 the Talmud; 8 Historicity Section; 8.1 Naming specific historians in Historicity section; 9 historicity; 10 Dead Sea Scrolls?; 11 My revert: the reasons; 12 Sorry for deleting "Jesus the Nazarene"; 13 tightening up the intro; 14 Weasel words and other changes; 15 mediation; 16 Scholarship; 17 At odds with other Jews. . .; 18 more than 12 apostles in gospels/acts; 19 John's Gospel says Jesus said the Father is the one true God; 20 Common Era v. Anno Domini; 21 CE and AD are not really equivalent; 22 Quote from Wikipwedia manual of style Eras; 22.1 RFC on AD/CE; 23 CE or not to CE
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 15 - debate over AD vs. CE prior to vote
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 16 - vote on AD vs. CE; post-vote discussion.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 17 - More post-vote discussion.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 18 - A lot of stuff: 1 James brother of Jesus; 2 Totally disputed tag; 3 Accuracy dispute?; 4 Problems with this article; 5 The name of this article; 6 size of this article....347K ?!?!; 7 Calm Down Everyone; 8 My comments on the main article; 9 Comments on the rewrite article; 10 SOURCES!!!; 11 A formal proposal; 12 Dubious lead section sentence; 13 The two versions; 14 Picture; 15 God; 16 Introduction; 17 View of Jesus by different religions.; 18 Weasel words; 19 On whether Jesus is the God or a God; 20 Most (but not all); 21 BC/BCE; 22 Intro sentence; 23 The Nazarene; 24 Virgin Mary in the New Testament; 25 Requested moves; 25.1 Discussion; 25.2 Decision; 26 Move to Jesus Christ; 27 June 7 changes; 28 NDE / Faith healings; 29 Jesus claiming to be god; 30 According to the New Testament; 31 Jesus' life - according to the New Testament; 32 Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance; 33 Christian and Biblical Endorsement of Islam and Arabic Heritage; 34 Language; 35 We Can Agree On Some Basic Clarification; 36 Being vs Person; 37 Prophet in Islam; 38 Poll: Religions Jesus is important in.; 39 BC/BCE; 40 Ettiquette note; 41 "Central figure of Christianity"; 42 Inaccuracy in Ressurection & Ascension section; 43 changes to history paragraph; 44 NPOV question; 45 Voting open on BC/AD vs BCE/CE compromise proposal; 46 Dear oh dear...
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 19 - Catholic view on salvation, Gospel of Thomas, Messianic Judaism, Islam section
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 20 - Various editing suggestions, usage of words, other perspectives, evidence queries
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 21 - Gospels or gospels?, Latter-day Saint minor edits, Archive, Featured article candidacy, Lord and God, Islam and Anon Editor, Other Sources, Removal of 'beloved' on the islam sentence, Jesus' Relationship With a Young Man, BCE/CE, stricken section, Image of Jesus with John, Extant texts, Mary a Virgin, favor?, historicity alert, This woodwork picture, Ok OK let's talk this through.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 22 - very long archive. Different accounts of the Ascension, Sukkot?, Jesus's Secret Message link, Link to "Jesus, a historical reconstruction", Vandalism (semi-locked), Jesus is generally accepted etc, Second Paragraph Summary of agreed points, Disciples tortured by Romans for believing in Resurrection?, Christ Birth - new data, image, "After his death numerous followers spread his teachings", "the Synoptic Gospels suggest a span of only one year. The consensus view remains three years however.", Grammatical corrections and style suggestions (sections 1.1-1.3), Christianity Series, Proposed more NPOV template, Tag/No Tag, NPOV Jesus, Triumphal entry, Suggestion based on interpretations?, Legacy, Existence, Part of a series on ... ?, Discussion to Remove Common Era references in this article, 24.106.140.254 reversions, Jesus's father, Nazareth/Nazarene, trinity, Divinity vs equal to the Father, Jesus' teachings, Lead section (Christian views and peoposed "Nicene" revision), By about the year 80, Christianity had become quite distinct from Judaism, JimWae's Edits re "Part of a series on Xty," Is this a religious article?, Lead section: Atonement, non-trinitarians and restorationists, Love?, Common Era / Anno Domini reword, Suggested Era guidelines. Has anyone else noticed, Jesus answered Pilate vaguely when asked if he was King of the Jews, Golden Rule, Semi-Protect, Scholarly views, Jesus' legacy, Goethean, Dude don't vandalize Jesus!
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 23 - Anon comment, Jesus and Anti-Semitism, Intro, Adding Content, Unprotect
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 24 - Pop Culture Mention, Jesus in Islam, Any comments?, A suggested new intro, Compromise Part 2
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 25 - Compromise Part III: The Return of the Intro, Historical Jesus and the Discussion of the Trial, Lemma, What is this page about?, Semi-Protect, Much better, AD vs CE, Dates in intro
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 26 - Historicity, Bahai Faith, Ok, ignoring the AD/BC BCE/CE debate and the phrasing of historical document sentences..., Does Nicene Creed say acceptance of Jesus is a condition of being saved?, Does God have 2 hands and a face?, How do people think the gospels are logically flawed on the subject of Christ's divinity?, critical scholars, Modifications for the section about the trial
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 27 - Ok, it's time to move on, Merge, Streamlining the Historicity Paragraph, Scholars and the Dating of the Gospels (expecially Mark), Francesco Carotta, Intro, Background and sections in between
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 28 - Christian views of Jesus, The trial, changes are ignored, Intro dates - again, New Proposal – AD/BC ONLY
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 29 - Legacy, Scholars Generally Hold... Paragraph, Scholars and commentators who state that there is doubt that Jesus existed historically, The scholars listed as notes on the intro, Revert war
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 30 - Critical scholars/historians, Parsing the issue, Early life section, The article in general, re: POV flag, Historicity, Critical Historians, infidels.org, Additional references
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 31 - Robsteadman vs Slrubenstein, too many clauses, Jesus went to India (Ahmadi Muslims),
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 32 - Legacy of Christ. After this there was extensive discussion on ¶ 2.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 33 - Categorisations, discussions on paragraphs 2 and 3, John 3:16, Jesus member or part of trinity, robsteadman, establishing concensus on paragraph 2. -- Deskana
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 34 - Paragraph 3 and Christian views section, John 3:16, Jesus "member" or "part" of Trinity, Archive Index & Historicity vs. Historical, Chooserr and date notation, Robsteadman conflicts and an appeal to clarity, Clean up activities -- Deskana
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 35 - Arbitration, Islam and Oneness, links, references,etc., First paragraph conflict, ditto 2nd paragraph, Voting, Robsteadman version, birth dates of Jesus, Scholars, John 3:16, Citations,
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 36 - Subpages & Reorgs, Jesus Seminar, Biographical Article, consensus challenged on paragraph 2, discussion on Paragraph 3 tabled, motion to remove semi-protect.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 37 - Paragraph 2, neutrality flag, see also, more on paragraph 2, software bug, silly math humor (absurdist protest).
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 38 - Judaism's view, Again with the Jesus-Myth (3 proposals by Raisinman), Question about Jesus, Pilate and Barrabas, Jesus in other languages.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 39 - Documentation Report, Archive Report, Final Avery vote and its aftermath, scholars who affirm the Gospel's historicity, viewpoint of a noob
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 40 - Archive and subpage logs. Discussion of first three paragraphs, including date issues (range and notation). Skeptic's view of Jesus, including philosophy of ethics and literary analysis. Other stuff: Help with Miracles of Jesus article, Rick Norwood's copyedit, and calm talk.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 41 - Paragraph 1: Hebrew/Greek names of Jesus, consensus version added to article here.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 42 - Life, the universe, and everything; Ecumenical councils and Biblical canon; New NIV Template; Dates of Jesus; Led Zeppelin and Jesus; Gnosticism; sources controversy and a picture; Assessing the FA Drive.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 43 - March 9 archive; Translation of Mishneh Torah; Proposal to rename this article "Jesus Christ"; Referencing (new footnoting system); SOPHIA's revision of the intro; Redundant sections on Christian views; etombment vs. burial; Andrew c's recent changes.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 44 - Life and teachings or biography of Jesus?, Date Notation Sillyness, Wikinfo on Jesus, Alternate Antenicene Christianities, Jesus Seminar
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 45 - Biography, Geography, Congrats from Rick Norwood, Wikiethics, Jesus Christ redirect.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 46 - Non-Christian religious views, Jesus Seminar Part 2, Plagiarism allegation, dates.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 47 - Divinity of Jesus article, Christianity Knowledge Base, Etymology (again), Jesus' vs. Jesus's, agape.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 48 - Names section, Forensic, Semi Protect, Introduction; some minor changes which might ruffle feathers, Yet again with the era notation, first to-do list, Articles Lacking Sources Category
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 49 - second to-do list; new skeptical linl; Jesus and Elisha; vandalism; baptism image; minor first paragraph revision; Jesus' vs Jesus's; Name section.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 50 - Jesus dynasty; talk page heading level; life & teachings section; dissident Jesus; Nazarenes; CTSWyneken's RfA; main section billing; condensing the "Nativity and Childhood section."
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 51 - Unsourced statements in ministry section; Andrew c's concerns over chronology and bapstism sections; Calandar notation again; historical Jesus subpage activity; Jesus, Mary and the Kings of France; external links.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 52 - No criticism allowed; Suffer the Children; What are the disputes?; Come together; responses to "Come together"; Semiprotect?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 54 - Peer review over; name section cont'd; question about the Messiah; Child Jesus needs sources; Fleur de lys; Geneology of Jesus; Unbelievable quality of the Muslim views section; Page blanking vs. archiving; Impressive.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 55 - Infobox.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 56 - Arrest, trial and execution section.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 57 - Neutral evidence, Isa, Day of Jesus' death, FA nomination, Chronology section, Bible versions
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 58 - Christ: Title or name; cult leader; vandalism; Islam; what should "Life and Teachings" section include and exclude?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 59 - The trial again, part 2.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 60 - Fiction; Criminals category; Removed NPOV tag; Archive, don't delete; Points of Agreement; Suggestion; An important detail and a link got lost - why?; second paragraph; Execution v. Crucifiction; Messianic Jews; topics box; AID drive over
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 61 - Quotes from Jesus; Condensing article; question about BC
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 62 - Why is there no neturality warning for Jesus, but for Jesus-Myth?; Is this neutral enough?; Legacy of Jesus; C.S. Lewis; Page protected; External links - deletions
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 63 - To do list, Islamic views, God and Jesus, Resurrection and Ascension, Sikh view of Jesus, Jesus original name, Very Long notice.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 64 - Christianity template, part 1
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 65 - Christianity template, part 2 (reserved)
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 66 - Comments about the Current Article; POV in the opening paragraph; Protection, how long?; Historicity of Jesus or Historicity of the New Testament?; Islam as an insult to Christianity; "Legal Heir" (Matthew & Lukes geneologies vis-a-vis Messiah & David)
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 67 - Something strangely missing from Historicity section; Unprotecting; RfC; WP:3RR warning; NT plot summary; Was Jesus Bipolar?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 68 - Revised Template Question; About a picture; Introduction Suggestion; Historicity of Texts; Intro to "life" section
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 69 - Sol Invictus; (Thomas) Aquinas; Archive Contents (minor item); BC/BCE — AD/CE; anarchism
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 70 - Length; Citations, who has them?; Project update regarding Jesus' NT bio; Proposal for Genealogy Text; Musical theatre characters; Chronology; Diocletian Era/248th year; Heritage; Opening era wikilinks
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 71 - Discussions about various images for article; Messianic "Jews" ???
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 72 - Jesus and India; "commonly referred to."; AD/CE vote
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 73 - Doctors (Finding in the Temple); Inconsistency?; Lostceasar's Issues
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 74 - Era notation vote; We have an article called "Evidence of evolution" but...; Denomination; Jesus' Family; central figure to founder; With respect to the section on Gnosticism
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 75 - I could find no other encyclopedias which denied the existence of Jesus; Forensic reconstruction?; Missing the logic; POV, "Little external documentation" about Jesus according to whom? Also, little is too vague/subjective; Wasn't Jesus Black?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 76 - Man claims to be 2nd Coming of Jesus, Christian view, 6th century portrait, Jesus in Japan?, lack of modern historians views, trilemma, New Section Proposal: Conspiracy Theories About Jesus, African?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 77 - Revision of Christian Views, The Great Mystery link, Inline citations, NPOV proportionality, fact of Jesus, Jesus' family, Jesus was Albanian, Scholarship, Kabbalah vs. logia of Jesus.
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 78 - Cultural effects, The Jesus Extraterrestrial Connection, Supernatural/psychic categories, intro and historicity/myth, "...was handed over by Pilate the Roman governor to be crucified," Sanders on Jesus as a Pharisee
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 79 - Nietzsche, Family genealogy, Myth, BCE/BC, Islam, Magi, Arrest, Judaism's view
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 80 - William Lane Craig debate, Non-Christian views of Jesus, scholars and the death and Resurrection of Jesus, islamic view of jesus, Jesus' title and race, error in the article, parables, The Jesus Family Tomb and James Cameron, judgement, cousin, myth, Unnecessarily implied atonement theology in intro
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 81 - Founders of religions category tag, Jesus's Character, Recent significant changes, Judaism View, Minor Edits Reverted, Featured Article Status, Possible Bias?, Atheist views section, Report for violating 3RR, Atheist views - take 2, LIBERAL BIAS, Vandalism! Help! Someone!
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 82- Muslim view on Crucifixion, Notes section may need clean up, A Torrent, judgment, slavery, POV tag?, Featured article nomination.... maybe, Sources on Jesus' life, Standardizing references, Historicity or Revisionism?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 83 NT and scholars, Yahshua, Jesus' father, chronology (last supper), Mary Mag. and Jesus' family, FAC edits, confusing other views, Horus and the film Zeitgeist, "some" scholars in lead, Mythical/Historical Jesus Controversy, article title/redirects, "You guys got two months to add a criticism and controversy, or I'll call the creator of wikipedia to shut this page down", BC/AD AND BCE/CE Dating?, "Critical secular?", asexual reproduction is impossible, The Pope the scholar, AD vs. CE, Buddhist and Muslim views
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 84 Featured Article Canidate?, Virgin Birth, Joseph as father, Convert from Judaism, RfC and more on BCE/CE vs. BC/AD, Rabbi Hillel, incorrect reference regarding mythist/historicity, real face of Jesus, YHWH and pronunciation
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 85 Christian views on gospel's historicity, Jesus myth unsupported, Give me proof that Jesus existed, Fictional Character, Infancy Gospel of Thomas, Possessive of Jesus, youtube links, Neutral or not?, Important figure in other religions
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 86 Date and Year that Jesus Christ was born,; Jesus is a Greek Name, Not Hebrew; "A-Class Jesus work group articles"; FAQ; Categories and religions; 2nd paragraph of lead and mythists
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 87 Islamic view of Jesus in the introduction; Jesus was Not a Jew is the Islamic View; Jesus not a prophet according to Mormonism; Clarification Request For Genealogy Section; Historicity of Jesus; Certain/Most Distinction; Kenyon; Life/Death/Rebirth; Does Jesus exist? ORLY?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 88 JW view; Template; relatively preserved New Testament?; Life and teachings, as told in the Gospels
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 89 Jesus Christ in Proto-Indo-European; Birth year; Lead sentence... again; Jesus' Siblings; Reasons for Removal of Alternate Dating Notation
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 90 1 Request for edit, Yeshua is His name, Raelian view of Jesus, Feature?, 1st paragraph of article, Official religion of Roman Empire
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 91 POV pushing in introduction / Both POV's presented in introduction, Just Curious
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 92 Milton Steinberg's opinion, Bias in the first sentence
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 93 BBC image
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 94 2nd paragraph, Yeshua's Birthday, chronology, AD/CE and BC/BCE Usage, FA push, Inclusion of Piss Christ image
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 95 About a problem with "Nontrinitarian Christians profess various other interpretations regarding his divinity", Second paragraph, Notice for GFDL Attribution Requirements, Images, Chocolate Jesus, Why discuss so much', Biased reference, Wrong Interepretation of Jesus, Joseph, Step-father
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 96 "Me!", Joseph dies, Birthdate, Adding "Peace Be Upon Him", "Other religions", Citations, What is the better topic?
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 97 Removal of spurious representations of Jesus' appearance, trilemma, Mandaean views,scripture removed from historical Jesus section, Vanadalism, Pictures of Jesus, The Truths About Yeshua, Ehrman on harmonies
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 98 Proposal, Possible NPOV Violation in the Geneology Section, first paragraph, at least three years in Jesus' Ministry, this article is too big
  • Talk:Jesus/Archive 99 Literature to be mentioned, Timeline of birth, four gospels, lead; nontrinitarianism, historical Jesus, Jesus as myth, Manichaeism, year of jesus's birth, Edit at top of Jesus page, Colored Yeshua, Image of Jesus which currently exists, Proposal