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Jessica Lynch - Archive 1

Contents 1 Allegations of fraud 2 M16 3 Scott Bruno 4 Basic Training 5 Prisoner of War 6 Bronze Star Status

[edit] Allegations of fraud

To avoid an edit war over the latest changes, I propose we keep the line "Jessica recently accused the military of lying and inventing stories about her heroic acts for their own benefit" in the intro. Change the later edits to "Some major media outlets..." And then remove the "illegal" description of the war. Yes, I know Anan said it was illegal, but so are nearly all wars, and we don't tag them as illegal as well. To do it here is POV-pushing. Thanks! --Dchall1 13:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

The BBC alleges that the Jessica Lynch story is a fraud/propaganda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=preg9uNOcu0 Bofors7715 (talk) 03:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] M16

I'm removing the reference to the M16 as a gun that is notorious for jamming. There's no evidence from the sources I've reviewed that jamming was a big problem for the M16 after 1968, when a number of changes were made in the ammunition and design of the rifle. RFabian 22:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the reference should go back in. In the mid-1970's the M16A1 rifles (post change) we had in the Marines jammed in dirty, dusty or sandy conditions. We just chalked it up at the time to the fact that all military weapons, after design, are produced by the cheapest possible bidder.Lowellt 17:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scott Bruno

Former US Army Specialist Scott Bruno was the person who intercepted the 13 minute video depicting many of the dead in this case, many of which were shot point blank execution style. The footage was prime intelligence material as the video showed the external and internal buildings surrounding the area in which the battle took place as well as many other clues that would lead to forming a snatch and grab team to go in and retrieve the dead and survivors. Fox News at the time actually aggressively pursued this video from Bruno who nearly gave it up, this only after his Pentagon contact stated that after reviewing the video that it was closing time back east and he would DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IN THE MORNING! Outraged, Bruno has yet to tell the entire story, which if things did not go the way they did under such time delays, may have very well allowed for more lives to be saved. We'll never know. To gain insite into Specialist Bruno's accounts and life in the military you are welcome to find his website at http://www.scottbruno.com and http://411.scottbruno.com -- 05:35, 12 August 2007 Caliwebman

I don't see any links to this information on the sites provided. -- Esemono 08:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basic Training

The article says "Boot camp" (a term not used in the Army) was in Texas. That's impossible. There are 5 Basic Combat Training sites in the Army, Ft Benning, Ft Knox, Ft Leonard Wood, Ft Jackson, and Ft Sill. Females are only trained at Leonard Wood (Missouri) and Jackson (South Carolina). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hal06 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I've modified the article to indicate that Lynch attended basic training at Fort Jackson, NC. Page 35 of her book I Am a Soldier, Too indicates that she trained there and the the next chapter "Boot" alludes to this training. After completion of basic training she, as did all Quartermaster solders, attended Advanced Individual Training at Fort Lee, VA. Ehrentitle 19:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prisoner of War

I took out the line that says "It is entirely possible that she received the best care that that hospital could provide, which was not as good as American military hospitals could provide." While it may be true under the circumstance, it's unsourced, speculative, and I don't think it adds anything meaningful to the context. Polarrrbear (talk) 16:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bronze Star Status

Considering the Bronze Star (being one of the highest military honors) was awarded under a bogus scenario, and Jessica sharply denies the events leading up to the award, is there any information out there as to why she has not forfeited the award? Or has she? Either way, I think if it can be sourced, it is worth a mention. I haven't been able to find anything.Angrymansr (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Generally these kinds of awards are not forfeited even if erroneous as long as no actual intentional act of fraud was involved in it being awarded. (An honest mistake is not fraud.) For an example, note that Pat Tillman still retains his posthumous Purple Heart and Bronze Star despite the fact it is now known he died in a friendly fire incident. 75.70.186.213 (talk) 05:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)