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[edit] Hylia

The reason I changed it is because I thought "Hylia" was probably much more famous for the fictional place than the bird, considering that its article wasn't even started yet. Plus, that was the only other meaning of "Hylia" there. However, if you think otherwise, then I would suggest redirecting Hylia to Hyrule and placing an {{otheruses}} tag on top which links to Hylia (disambiguation) instead of just making Hylia a disambiguation.--ZXCVBNM 19:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's one of the more famous series in video gaming, so it's probably notable, but it's not in good condition. It needs a lot of fixing.--ZXCVBNM 20:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD discussion

I thought that you, as a contributor to List of fictional books, might want to add your opinion to this discussion of the possible deletion of List of fictional books within the Harry Potter series.--ShelfSkewed Talk 18:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style tips

On a completely unrelated note, I wholeheartedly endorse your style tips. My own bugbear is "currently". If the verb in the sentence is "is", then "currently" is superfluous—except, of course, in sentences like this one and the one before. Regards --ShelfSkewed Talk 22:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HP fictitious books

I suspect that there are supporting references out there, but that they are in academic journals or conference papers that are hard to search online, unless you have access through a university to one of the subscription academic search engines. I wish I had more time to make it to one of the university libraries nearby and do a thorough search, but I just don't. I keep hoping that some college-student WP editor with time on his/her hands, and a library a block or two away, might take the initiative. I noticed that at least two of the editors promoting this deletion--including the nominator--are heavy contributors to articles about video games, so they have endless online sources. I think that they don't understand that it's sometimes not so easy to find sources for literary topics outside of simple author biographies and book reviews. --ShelfSkewed Talk 04:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I wrote a brief intro to the list to help defend the notability of it. See what y'all think. --Bookgrrl holler/lookee here 05:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saltator

"Greyish" because I picked that up from the redlist.. IUCN uses "e" throughout... (Does a Wikipedia policy actually exist for one or the other? What I see in articles is entirely arbitrary it seems) As for the accent, the original verb fui does indeed not have an accent (as I wrote it) but I was not sure about the name - the call ends in -iiiii (see link in article) and in a Spanish transcription, that would be "í". So I checked it out and Salvadoreans themselves seem to prefer it with accent (only the name): "Lo llamamos "dichoso fuí", por que su trino parece decir eso....." [1]. The entire business

As regards the footnotes, the present state is still controversial, being the result of a unilateral change by one user pushing the ChMoS. When you get the first case in which of two references at the end of a paragraph, one sourcing the entire paragraph but the last sentence and the other sourcing the last sentence only you'll know why I prefer "European" style to the more ambiguous Chicago Manual style ;D Dysmorodrepanis 05:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accipiter (bicolor) chilensis

Hi Jerry, you credit me with being better informed than I really am. I made no conscious decision regarding this (sub)species, I imagine that HBW has added it since the Wikilist was compiled, so I have no view at all on this. Jimfbleak 05:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Jerry, I'll knock the snipe off the list when I next edit it (a couple of mynas to write first) - there is material out there, which is quite interesting, but we can't even do a taxobox without a binomial. Jimfbleak 05:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Vanellus armatus 2.jpg QI candidate

I would like to help you. With non professional cameras (as my) the megapixel is high but the detail not really good at full size view. I think if you try resize it to a smaller size (min. 1600*1200), it may can be enough sharp for QI. Good luck (if you can please reply at commons) --Beyond silence 13:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Did you know

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[edit] DYK

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[edit] Did You Know

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[edit] Pablo la Llave

Hi Jerry, your article about Pablo la Llave is great, but I change somes things. He wasn't director of Madrid Botanical Garden. He worked with Mociño but never in the Garden. I change too the name of Nueva Expaña Expedition (Madidi is in Bolivia). You can see the list of Garden's directors in the book:

Colmeiro y Penido, Miguel. Bosquejo histórico y estadístico del Jardin Botánico de Madrid, 1875 http://bibdigital.rjb.csic.es/spa/Libro.php?Libro=758, p. 84

Excuse me my bad english

kind regards Mirtuscommunis 21:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] La llave again

Hi Jerry

Thank you for write me in spanish, i try to reply you in english. The link concern to the digital library of Madrid Botanical Garden: http://bibdigital.rjb.csic.es/ing/index.php, and it run (i can see well), i don't understand why you cannot open with acrobat.

In the book of Colmeiro p. 83, is the list of Garden Director's and it wasn't La Llave. In this momment (1809-1814) was director of Garden Pablo Boutelou, a french gardener, because all botanists and the director Lagasca had gone into exile: José I, brother of Napoleon, was the king. Mociño and La Llave was "afrancesados" and worked with freedom in Madrid with the Expedition's cientific collections until the end of the Peninsular War (Guerra de la Independencia). The Botanical Garden and the Natural History Museum are two separated institutions, each one with his director, and La Llave work in the Museum like deputy director (thank you for the correction) but no in the Garden. I see the link to "Historia antigua y moderna de Jalapa..." but in this matter have a mistake.

No me importa que me tuteen, en España prácticamente lo hacemos todos, gracias por las correcciones, y disculpa otra vez mi espantoso inglés, encantada de encontrarte entre estos botánicos y naturalistas.

Saludos Mirtuscommunis 12:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Swallow

thanks Jerry, Jimfbleak (talk) 07:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I think there is always going to be a problem with these old sources, the Bible history link suggests that swifts and swallows were often confused, although the writer is clearly no ornithologist. Interesting about the testicles! Jimfbleak (talk) 06:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disambig

Hiya, sorry for any confusion. I've been doing a lot of cleanup on disambig pages recently, via Category:Disambiguation pages in need of cleanup. The relevant Manual of Style is at WP:MOSDAB. In a nutshell: We shouldn't use refs at disambig pages, since they're just navigational tools. If you want to add sources, they'd be better at actual articles. Let me know if you have questions?  :) --Elonka 05:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Belong into"

I can think of 2 possibilities:

  • I picked it up from some informatics paper
  • I picked it up from some timaliid paper.

Either way, it's probably possible (as opposed to "moved in" for example) but yes it's unusual. I have changed it. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Striped Kingfisher

I meant to do more, but I had a work email asking me to make changes in a report for disclosure tomorrow in a legal case. I'll put a bit more on probably tomorrow. Jimfbleak (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added a few more bits - there's not a huge amount even in Fry et al. The range is fine - surprised there's no article for Stanley. Jimfbleak (talk) 18:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I think almost all kingfishers have a watch and swoop technique, whether the hunt on land or in water - the only obvious exceptions are the nocturnal Shovel-billed and Hook-billed sp. Jimfbleak (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crowned Lapwing picture: copyvio?

As you seem to have guessed, I uploaded this picture when it was released under a CC license, and shortly afterwards, the author changed the license to "all rights reserved". However, the Creative Commons website clearly says[2] "every license is not revocable", so it's legal to keep it. But, as you say, there's a better pic now, so it's no big deal either way. --Raoulduke47 (talk) 17:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rook (card game)

I was wondering what similarities you see between Rook and Skat and Pedro, to justify mentioning them in the Rook article, while other trick-taking games are not mentioned. They seem awfully different to me, so I thought I would check on your justification. Thanks. Nik-renshaw (talk) 21:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The official rules say "Rook Bird card," and most of the article seems to be rather heavily borrowed from the rules that come with the modern version. I've tried to reword things to make the article more clear and self-standing, but it still relies heavily on the language of the Parker Bros rulebook.
So, is the primary similarity that you identify between Skat and Pedro and Rook their status as a trick-taking game reliant on taking only certain cards worth points? Because, while much of Rook's rules is existent in the other two, the bidding systems and play seem to me (from what I could understand of the painful articles on the other two card games) to be quite different. So, I think it might be most beneficial to the Rook article to merely point out their similarity based on that fundamental element of the game, than to just broadly say they have similarities. Let me know what you think. Oh, and feel free to reply here. I put your talk page on my watchlist for the time being. Nik-renshaw (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Aside from being played for points rather than just tricks, the features I see in common with Skat are the widow (Skat, nest) used by the bidding side and that the point values of the cards depend on rank but not suit. Pinochle has the same features but I didn't mention it because of the melding, which I gather is an important part of that game. The features I see in common with Pedro are the use of the 5, the optional use of the joker, the play in partnerships, and the auction method, although the auction method may not have been part of Pedro in 1909. (It's not in my source, The New Complete Hoyle, by Morehead, Frey, and Mott-Smith, 1956 edition.) The ace and 10 are the highest-value cards in both Skat and Pedro, though in Skat the 10 is also the second-highest in rank. (A, 10, K, Q...) So as I said, almost everything in Rook is in either Skat or Pedro. However, Rook dispensed with the ridiculously complicated scoring system of Skat (which I don't completely understand) and the second deal of Pedro.
So how much of this information do we want and what's the best way to say it?
By the way, I'm playing fast and loose with the nomenclature. Wikipedia's Pedro is pretty much MF&M-S's Cinch—their Pedro doesn't have the second deal, the "off-suit" 5, or the partnerships—but I've been using "Pedro" for both. (Wikipedia's Cinch is almost the same as MF&M-S's Auction Pitch. At least all these games are descended from All Fours.) —JerryFriedman (Talk) 03:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yellow-headed Amazon

I was trying to keep the scientific nonsense at a minimum, but have updated the taxonomic section fully now (although I managed to do so without logging in, hence by IP). Rabo3 (talk) 18:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I should add that I have stayed clear of the problematic situation for the South American taxa (especially A. o. ochrocephala), which arguably could be split into two species (PSC), but that has relatively little relevance for A. oratrix. Rabo3 (talk) 18:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Neotropical Cormorant

Hi JerryFriedman! I just changed the main picture of Neotropic Cormorant, for one I felt looked better (specially when zoomed). But now I have a worry: I have no experience whatsoever in bird identification, I put the picture just because I noticed that the only listed Cormorant species for Venezuela is the Neotropic Cormorant, and the picture in question is from a Cormorant, and it was taken in Venezuela. I checked a picture in the article were you said that you could distinguish individuals from this species, and I thought you would be kind and have a look at the new picture just to be sure I'm not mixing species. I feel confident that the picture is good enough to do an identification, but I don't have any good sources (or experience) to do it. Thank you very much for the help, and feel free to lecture me about being careful about my editing :) Wilianz (talk) 22:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Muy agradecido por tu ayuda, Jerry. Glad you liked it! Wilianz (talk) 09:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:location of photo of black bird

Good point about adding locations, I will do it from now on. Yes, it's Poland indeed. I do love how people eventually identify the plants and animals I take photos of :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Caspian sea monster

Wing-In-Ground effect vehicle should explain the Wing in Ground effect (I agree it is a somewhat confusing title). Emoscopes Talk 17:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Hello neighbor! =]

Hello :) thanks for droppin by.. its not to often when you see someone from up north on wikipedia. I live in Española as well.

... TomSalazar Chat?! 12:12 MT, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

May i also add that you picture gallery is quite amazing. I love your photography! :]

... TomSalazar Chat?! 10:08 MT, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thats great! I'am a big fan of photography i take some myself but sometimes its not all that great. Ya that is totally true i understand what you mean and i know for one it was named a town i just cant seem to find a darn source man. And if thats not the problem you should see this kid from taos is starting an edit war so i'am trying to settle things and it just isnt working. Ya pretty crazy on my side haha so are you a teacher?

TomSalazar Chat?! 11:24 MT, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

oh nice..thats sounds nice man! Well i was going to Kansas University for awhile but there is just no place like home ..so i'm at UNM now its not anything like kansas but if keeps me close to family and friends it works. I actually do plan on running for something in the future i was thinking something in albuquerque. But now i'm just so busy sometimes.. and now especially that election season is here.

TomSalazar Chat?! 9:36 MT, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Thailand

Thanks, Jerry, Jimfbleak (talk) 05:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Poshlost/poshlust quote

I thought I was correcting a mistake, not noticing the quotation marks. Shouldn't there be an explanation of why the spelling suddenly changes? Or am I missing something? Rothorpe (talk) 16:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

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