Talk:Jennifer Garner

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[edit] Violet

Do we really need to have Violet's birth mentioned twice (as far as birthdate and name?)

[edit] Links

The picture gallery link doesn't work for me. Does it work for anyone else? SpaceCaptain 04:59, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

which one? Boneyard 13:41, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography

The new filmography format on this article is currently a limited test. Please see Wikipedia:Filmographies for more information and to leave feedback. RADICALBENDER★ 01:02, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Did she really change her official name?

I reverted the move of this article to Jennifer Garner Affleck until someone give a source that she did officially change her name and that under Wikipedia:Naming conventions, this name is the most common name for her. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes I have a link---http://toronto.fashion-monitor.com/news.php/toronto_celebrities/2005122902jennifer_garner_affl

Thanks. Unfortunately, that does not claim that she has legally changed her name, just that she has taken an alias (if you'll pardon the pun). Married women in Canada may be known by their husband's legal surname but do not legally change their last name, they just take an alias. If someone can show that things work differently in the U.S., or that she has legally changed her name, that would be great. Also, not that this article does not claim (unlike some prior editors) that she also changed her middle name from Anne to Garner. --Yamla 00:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
She is still using the name Jennifer Garner in her professional credits (ie Alias, Academy Awards), so unless there's a reputable source to suggest otherwise, I say we stick with Jennifer Garner. Certainly she wouldn't be the first performer (or woman, period) to choose to keep her name after marriage. 23skidoo 15:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this a Garner's article or Affleck's article?

I believe somebody should take the time to clean this article up. I don't know much about Jennifer, but It seems to me the article speaks to much about Ben Affleck (his name is even substituted for her's). --unsigned comment from 65.23.239.96

I think you are confused. Jennifer changed her last name to Affleck recently, or at least that is the unsourced claim in the article. Thus, the references you think are to Ben Affleck are instead to her. --Yamla 17:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The "Pierced ears" controversy

I noticed that the link titled "Exploding The Myth Of Jennifer Garner's 'Unpierced' Ears" keeps getting put up after several deletions. The reason I believed that that link should remain deleted is because I don't believe that Jennifer Garner has ever actually had her ears pierced, which therefore makes the link's claims little more than an unsubstantiated rumor, and I'll explain why; first, there is such a thing as stud-looking earrings that are not actually studs, but are held in place on the earlobe with a sufficiently strong magnet; second, the "ear studs" do not appear to be in exactly the same place on her lobes in several of the link's photos; and third, there is no evidence of any photos that show Garner with any holes in her earlobes that would indicate that she ever had them pierced. It is for those three reasons that the link should be removed. Starbuck-2 09:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the evidence is there that she did have them pierced for a time. If you check the guestbook at the site concerned, you'll see mention of her talking about it in a magazine interview, although sadly no info on what magazine it was. Secondly, your argument about how the studs she's wearing seem to be in different places in some of the pictures doesn't appear to be born out. To me, they look to be in exactly the same spot in each one, and any minor variations in apparent position can easily be explained by 1) the angle of the photograph (in some, she's looking down, and in others, the camera is below the level of her ears, i.e. the equivalent of her looking up), and 2) the fact that the post part of the earring which goes through the hole in the ear isn't always dead centre on the earring. If they were magnetic earrings, the variation in position between pictures (if there actually is any) would be a lot greater, making it highly unlikely that they are magnetic studs. Thirdly, you say there's no pictures showing holes in her ears, but if she stopped wearing pierced earrings a while back and let the holes heal up, then they wouldn't be visible in recent pictures, while the older pictures are not of a high enough quality to show her ears in detail. If you look at other female celebrities who we do know have pierced ears, there are quite a few of them where the holes in their ears can be very difficult to see, even in really large high-quality images. Using your criteria, anyone who only wears stud earrings and doesn't actually say on record that they have pierced ears can't actually have them done, so your argument is very flawed on all three counts. As a trained and qualified historian, I've got to say that the evidence for her having them done in the past is a lot stronger than that for a lot of events we consider to be accepted historical facts.Gidz 00:33, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The website in question is a self-published personal website that falls short of Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources; we can't use it as a source to substantiate factual claims in articles. --Muchness 01:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Photographs are a much more reliable source than text-based articles, which are always subject to the perspective of the writer. As a trained historian, I was always told to regard photographs as primary sources which trump written evidence, even if that written evidence is itself a primary source. The pictures, most of which are screen captures from commercially available films or TV shows, are also available on other websites. They are therefore reliable as secondary source material, because the person posting them on the website is not the original creator of the images - the guidelines on "self-published" sources only cover text-based sites, not images sourced from third parties. Plus, of course, the available interviews where she talks about not being allowed to have her ears pierced are all talking about when she was growing up, not about what she did after she left home, which is when the pictures show she had her ears pierced. Gidz 02:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The site in question consists one individual's self-published analysis and speculation based on photographic evidence; the author's claims have not been subject to any form of independent fact-checking. Two editors have now disputed the addition of this content; please don't add it back to the article without first gaining consensus for its inclusion here. Disputed content follows:
"Jennifer did get her ears pierced in her mid-20s, but has now let them heal up again[1]"
--Muchness 02:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
This information has been confirmed by discussions on the IMDb forums over the past year, by more than two people, therefore it has been restored to the article. Emma white20 11:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Discussions on internet forums do not meet Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources. From the guidelines: "Posts to bulletin boards, Usenet, and wikis, or messages left on blogs, should not be used as primary or secondary sources. This is in part because we have no way of knowing who has written or posted them, and in part because there is no editorial oversight or third-party fact-checking." --Muchness 14:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The "disputed" website has recently been updated with new pictures which clearly show pierced holes in her earlobes, addressing the main original objection on this topic. For that reason, and as the situation here appears deadlocked, with two "for" and two "against", the link has been restored to the article to permit further peer review.Emma white20 00:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
It is easy for a Photoshop user to take photos of Jennifer Garner and create the illusion of "holes" in her earlobes, which it appears has been done with the photos of Garner used (and again, the "holes" are not in the same spots where the stud-looking magnetic earrings were put on her lobes in the other photos, thereby proving that the photos claiming that Garner had "pierced" earlobes are a hoax). Since there are no legitimate photos that actually show Garner with pierced earlobes, this conclusively proves that she never had them pierced, and because of that, the website link has been removed again and should not be put back in the article.Starbuck-2 11:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't believe you guys spend that much time discussing the status of Jennifer Garner's lobes. You have way too much free time, and you probably should use your energy towards more valuable causes...

This recently added link [2] has been removed after being repeatedly re-added to the main article because, like the previous link that was removed [3], this new link is a self-created website with unsourced articles (where the site creator again claims that Jennifer Garner got her ears "pierced" without legitimate proof) and Photoshopped photos of Garner. The site does not meet the WP:RS criteria, and it is obvious that both sites were created by the same person, so the new link is not to be restored to the article. Creativity-II 23:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Jennifer Garner images

The continual removal of images of Jennifer Garner from Wikipedia articles about her and her Alias character, Sydney Bristow, is starting to get tiresome. The image that was most recently used for both articles came from the Alias section of the ABC.com website - the same site as the photos of other actors from the show - and yet Garner's photos keep getting removed, while the other actors' photos are allowed to remain. All images from that site are considered fair use under Wikipedia guidelines (and that includes Garner's images), so why keep removing the Garner images while letting those of the others stay? Starbuck-2 07:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

This is not the case. Please see WP:FUC. We may not use a copyrighted image any longer to depict a living person. --Yamla 14:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Aren't all the images used for the other actors in Alias (i.e. Victor Garber, Ron Rifkin, etc.) also copyrighted? If they are and they're being allowed to remain anyway, then I think that shows bias.Starbuck-2 22:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't know, I haven't checked out those images. Please check them out for me and if they are copyrighted non-free images, please add {{subst:rfu}} to each of the images. Thanks. --Yamla 22:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

While I'm thinking about it, what sources are out there that would have free images of Jennifer Garner to use? Starbuck-2 22:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You can always search flicker for CC tagged images, but I had no luck looking for Jennifer Garner. You can try to find a screenshot of her on a show or movie as that usually constitutes fair use as an example of the show or movie in question. --Mattarata 00:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "episode order cut..." -- does not make sense.

These words: "...with the season's episode order cut by a few episodes..." do not make sense. Did the author mean "...with the season cut by a few episodes..."? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LeroyVJunker (talk • contribs) 05:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

How does it not make sense? The network ordered 22 episodes. Then they reduced their order to just 17 episodes. Removing the "episode order" part just makes the sentence less precise and somewhat vague.

[edit] Main picture is very slutty-thoughts?

I think it speaks for itself...

7FlushSetzer 22:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

If you can find a better freely-licensed replacement, please feel free to upload it. You will want to read and understand WP:FU before you do, though; almost 100% of the images you find on the Internet would be inappropriate for this article. --Yamla 22:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree the picture is not that slutty compared to most starlets in the hollywood spotlight Jenn garner is not the person that comes to midn when you think of the words slutty. Now a better image maybe with her playing with violet to show how she is a careing and loving mother of one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.75.135 (talk) 06:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Location, Location

I've added a 'citation needed' marker to her current residence. I think it's wrong, but a preliminary internet search reveals nothing. Someone once pointed out a house in Newton (Mass.) to me as the Affleck/Garner homestead, but that's not much of a source. Nigel Napalm 07:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Purported Methodist connection

Please document this person's membership in a Methodist church before adding her to any Methodist categories. Before that can be documented, it's uncertain if she's really a Methodist.

One author said she is Methodist because her daughter was baptized at a Methodist church. That in fact does not signify formal affiliation with the Methodist church. She may have done that to please relatives.

Nova SS 01:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BLP concerns

I reverted an anon edit that says Jennifer Garner likes fans to stop her to say "Hi"! — which used a fan site interview as a source. First, a fan site is not a "reliable source"; more importantly, this article should not invite/give permission to fans to stop her on the street. — ERcheck (talk) 22:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On the argument to authority basis of Wikipedia...

If I'm correct (and I may not be -- it could all be a ridiculous coincidence) then things like famous acresses are a perfect example of why documented, cited sources may be completely wrong. It's sad that Wikipedia's guidelines require ONLY argument by authority and no 'original research' or anything else.

I sat behind this girl in 4th grade, nowhere near Texas or Virginia. Either that or I sat behind another girl in 4th grade named Jennie Garner who happened to look exactly like this one, except younger.

(Adding:--) Almost forgot to mention that I very distinctly (because I had a crush on her) recall an 'oh wow, you're birthday is only two days after mine!' conversation taking place with Jennie Garner in fourth grade. Seeing as I was born on the 19th of April, 1972, it seems pretty weird to think I coincidentally sat behind someone with the same name as this actress, who looked just like this actress would have as a little girl, and had the same exact birthday.

65.87.20.98 (talk) 04:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

That would be fine, except that we have no way of knowing if any of what you wrote above is true, or if you are making it up. I'm not saying you are, but if you were we could never find out. That's why we must have reliable sources and no original research. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mauruschka Kruger?!

Is it a joke? Or I didn't know? (it's written under the pic)


Girl !

[edit] Best known movies?

The article says "She is best known for her role as CIA agent Sydney Bristow on TV's Alias, as well as for her roles in the films Juno, Pearl Harbor and Dude, Where's My Car?."

While agree that Alias is one of roles she is best known for, and Juno is a recent movie, I can't agree about Pearl Harbor or Dude, Where's My Car. These are both earlier supporting roles. Since that time she has had leading roles. She might be better known now for Daredevil, Elektra, 13 Going on 30, The Kingdom?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.47.95 (talk) 14:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)