Talk:Jena Six/WhiteTree

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Contents 1 "White Tree" 2 The White Tree incident 3 Tree cutting 4 Did they actually sit under the tree?

[edit] "White Tree"

Does anyone have a source as to why it's called "the white tree"? It's really simple, and perhaps true, to imply that it's called the white tree because it's where all the white people sit. But my first assumption is still that it has always been called a white tree for some school or taxonomy reason, and that it became a slur because of its scientific title. I have no idea either way, and can't find anything about it. PS NPR's not generally a great source. I'm a fanatical listener, but no matter how hard they try, it is an extremely liberal POV franchise. --Mrcolj 11:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

But my first assumption is still that it has always been called a white tree for some school or taxonomy reason, laughs so hard cola shoots out nose! Hahahahaha! Priceless! You, Sir, are a comedic genius! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.15.191.126 (talk) 20:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The only references I've seen to it seem to indicate the name is because the White students sat under it. Perhaps someone from Jena will be able to provide further information. CJ 12:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

How many people could fit under this tree at a time? A small group of white students sat under it. Just like at my school, there was a picnic table that a group of black students all sat at, and no one else. We didn't call it the "black picnic table" though. People divided themselves into groups, and have one area they all gather at. Dream Focus 19:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

^so true199.80.117.25 14:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

^ Almost all students separate themselves by color true. Yet, how many times at your school did a black kid sit at the white table and the next day there was a noose on the seat? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.115.251.210 (talk) 16:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC) ^Every fucking time, I dunno where you went to school. ----

[edit] The White Tree incident

In your article concerning this incident you list that there were 2 nooses found on the tree. However, most news websites claim there were 3 nooses (CNN and The Toronto Star)

24.36.201.159 18:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparently the reason some people are so eager to claim it was two nooses rather than three nooses is because traditionally, in the Klan, the hanging of three nooses stands for "K - K - K." Qworty 18:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The timeline published by the Jena Times—which uses much non-neutral wording—says that there were two nooses. My default assumption would be that a newspaper is a reasonable and generally NPOV source. From it's own website, the Jena Times appears to be small operation (primarily by writer/editor/publisher Sammy J Franklin since January 1, 1968). Does anyone know more about Franklin, the paper's past, and/or its position in the community? —MJBurrage • TALK • 17:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

It should also be noted that washington claims there is no relation between the noose incident and the attack. source: http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=80&pid=&sid=1254410&page=2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.86.92 (talk) 23:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean the attorney or the city? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cryo921 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tree cutting

I've removed: "Since the incident, school officials have had the tree cut down for firewood. <ref name="farwell">" because its location in the article broke the sequence of the narrative and because it failed to mention the date with respect to the sequence of events. It also seems pretty trivial. I fully support restoring this information to the article if we can place it in the proper sequence. Rklawton 01:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Since the tree has become a symbol of this whole chain of events, I support keeping it in somewhere. --cutcopy 21:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The NYT also notes that it has been cut down in an article today. --cut copy 21:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I removed it, but I'm very much in favor of restoring this information. At the time I removed the sentence (top), it was interrupting the article flow. Therein lies the rub. Where do we put it? I haven't seen any source that gives a date, and this article flow is entirely time-line oriented. If someone could post a source here with a date (even a month should do it), then I'd be happy to add it back in. Likewise, if someone could find a place to add this where it doesn't interrupt the logical flow, that would be great, too. Rklawton 21:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I've restored it. futurebird 16:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did they actually sit under the tree?

A detail of moderate importance that I have found in only one story[1]:

Told by the vice principal they could sit wherever they pleased, the student and his pals sat under the sprawling branches of the shade tree in the campus courtyard.

Does anyone have any info to corroborate this?--macdonja 00:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

From what I recall, different news stories seem to have different versions. Ophois 01:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I found some more articles.[2][3]--macdonja 01:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try and look over them tomorrow. Ophois 05:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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