Talk:Jem (singer)

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[edit] Article name

I have several problems with the title of this article.

1. Disambiguation titles are generally not capitalized, so it should be Jem (singer).
2. Even as Jem (singer), it is not disambiguated enough from Jem (animated), who is also a singer, fictional though she may be.

At this point, I would suggest Jem Griffiths or Jem (singer-songwriter) to properly disambiguate her? I know that neither of these is particularly appealing, but I can't think of another way around this. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:40, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

On second thought, I think that the animated Jem was also a songwriter, so that doesn't work either. The general rule of disambiguation titles is to have the most generic term possible that does not encapsulate another article or concept. Is Jem (live singer) too clunky? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:49, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

I've just moved this page from Jem Griffiths, on the grounds that she's known as Jem and her real name is Jemma Griffiths, and the hybrid Jem Griffiths is rarely, if ever, used.

And the trouble with the capitalization is that there was already a redirect page for Jem (singer) and I didn't know how to erase it so that I could move the existing page to that name. So I compromised.

I suspect that a real person should take precedence over a cartoon character, and in any case Jem (animated) refers to the series and not the character. If anyone does an article on the fictional Jem I'd suggest atitle such as Jem (fictional singer) or Jem (animated character).

Anyway, I've just spent a lot longer than I thought fixing links, so if anybody decides to move this page again I'll be happy to leave it all up to them!!!

Yr obedient (ha!) servant...

Lee M 15:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, the issue isn't so much about precedence, but disambiguation titles are supposed to remove ambiguity. Even if the animated singer was at (fictional singer), then the Jem (singer) link would still not properly disambiguate. Also, the "real person" v. "fictional person" is not enough of a criteria to decide who should get the main article. I'm not sure what the precedent is so I'll bring it up at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:11, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Shifted to Jem (singer)

for consistency with other articles... and fixed most of the redirects too. - MykReeve 21:17, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:JemWishIPt1.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:JemTheyPt1.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:JemJustARidePt1.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Jem - 24.jpg

Image:Jem - 24.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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