Talk:Jeltoqsan

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[edit] huh?

That info qouted in the THE NEW YORK TIMES about the USSR using race segragation is wrong, the USSR was based on "a self determination union" with republics, autonomous republics, etc. saying that's segragation is a real sreach of the word!

[edit] Statement of independence or power struggle?

I was there. I used to go to school near the plaza where the main events took the place. Reading the article one would think that the uniform population was involved, but it wasn't the case.

It might have started that way, but quickly turned into something else. To anyone present in the city at the time it was ethnic and it was criminal.

Reading about "students uprising" might lead a western reader into a false sense of "rightness", struggle for freedom and self-determination. It is not how it was perceived by the population at the time.

I'd like to see documented article about the parties involved, profile of students (and schools they attended) and bus-loads of out of city nationals brought in, about pay, food and alcohol they've got for participation, about overturned and burned cars, about children led home via back roads by the teachers. I'd like to see an article about hush coming over the city in the early following years on the anniversary date - when people still remembered what it was really about. I could give you my account of one of those anniversaries - about drunk teenage nationals looking to assert their ownership of the country. And it wasn't due to age or alcohol influences, there were much stronger influences - those of ethnicity and nationalism. I'd like to see how those influences affected every aspect of government and business practices since.

I'd like someone to point out the beneficiaries and following changes in the political lanscape. I'd like someone to point out what the events meant to other ethnic groups. What the consequences meant for families spread out all over former USSR.

So far all I see is official propaganda.