User talk:Jeffespo20
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[edit] VistaPrint
Please do not remove the tags from this article until and unless the concerns are addressed. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- The press release that was linked showed the number of customers served and also can be used as a citation. If that source is not valid, please let me know what would be more appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffespo20 (talk • contribs)
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- Press releases are not impartial. Information from business data compilations such as ValueLine or D&B, and the like are considered reliable sources. I restored the author's name to the one reference in the article; it's unclear to me what you were trying to do with that edit. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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- I've done what I could here. (You must stop inserting inappropriate external links, especially in the body of the article.) Things like a detailed list of the various sub-sites for different languages and currencies are not encyclopedic content, and will always be yanked. You have provided some good additional external references, though.
- Do you work for VistaPrint? If so, you really need to disclose that on your user page. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] VP partnerships
Jeffespo20: Regarding the question you placed on my User Talk page: I don't know exactly how the VPrewards problem arises. I've read that, in the UK, the Terms and Conditions issued to a customer who makes a second purchase from VistaPrint are not the same as those issued for the first purchase. The opt-out marketing for VPrewards relies on customers not reading the second set of T&C's, assuming - perfectly reasonably - that they're the same as the first set. Opt-out marketing is illegal in almost all member states of the European Union but apparently not in the UK. UK banks and consumer representative bodies consider the behaviour of VistaPrint and VPrewards to be highly unethical and banks have posted numerous "black marks" about VPrewards (and by association, VistaPrint) to credit card companies. The general feeling in the UK is that VistaPrint needs to clean up its act in the UK in quite a major way. If this isn't how the VPrewards problem arises, I think VistaPrint's public relations in the UK would improve considerably if they explained how customers are chosen to be registered for opt-out marketing, and, even more importantly, desisted from this practice. OldSpot61 (talk) 16:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Jeff, please don't use an anonymous IP address (4.79.245.132) to edit the VistaPrint page, given that you work in the company's PR department. Thanks for your consideration. OldSpot61 (talk) 17:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Jeff, thanks for the lengthy reply. I accept that might be the way VP intends to operate but I suggest you look closely at how your affiliate VPrewards actually operates. Maybe they're ripping you off, i.e. destroying VistaPrint's goodwill in order to sign up customers to VPrewards without them knowing. There are just too many complaints about VPrewards (and by association, VistaPrint) for the many problems to be coincidental. Perhaps you should pass this up the line. Anyway, this isn't relevant to Wikipedia but maybe you could accept it as constructive criticism and pass it up the line. I look forward to hearing that VistaPrint has terminated what I (and others) would say is an unethical operation in the UK, even if it isn't actually illegal here, unlike the rest of the E.U. OldSpot61 (talk) 20:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
