Talk:Jeff Hardy/Archive 2

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I don't know how long Jeff will be around. WWE hasnt added him to the RAW roster on WWE.com.

Don't you realize, WWE.com is NOT updated all the time? RobJ1981 19:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Well im sorry, i figured that Hardy would have been added by now, it's a little more than a day since his return.

In reference to his bit on Raw re-debut. I think the match was a no-contest due to Umaga.

Umaga had nothing to do with the match. Hardy won by disqualification, as seen on http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/results/. And please sign your comments. Calaschysm 09:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Be sure to sign with Swanton Bomber 21:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Swanton Bomber 21:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

-I can't add anything yet because it's locked, but shouldn't it be listed that he is the Number One Contender to the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble? This seems like a VERY important thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tumnus2014 (talk • contribs)

Nope. Future events are not listed. It's notable once it happens. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Sykes is right. Some people are either illiterate or just like ignoring warnings because they keep adding it back in even though there is a message in all capitals saying not to add future events. TJ Spyke 01:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, TJ. And call me Gavyn. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand how being the number one contender is a "future event" not to be added. He IS the number one contender. That's an official thing, just as much credibility as the IC title. (UTC)
The future event is his Royal Rumble title match against Orton. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Signature Moves

I think some signature moves should be added to his list. One is his Dropkick to an opponent laying down at the turnbuckle. Another one is his Dropkick to the outside through the 1st and 2nd ropes followed by a Plancha. Both of these Dropkicks have him use his arms to springboard off of the ropes(not sure what its called when using his arms). His running jumping Crossbody off the barracade should be added too(even though he hasn't used it since he's been back). Also his Leg Drop off of a ladder should be added. The one where he places the ladder next to the turnbuckle and hops over the ladder. He uses this in basically every ladder match he's in. Konigberserk 3:40, 18 November 2006

Um, we know that you aren't actually a user. We have page histories. -- THLCCD 22:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to log in. I am a new user though so I can't add these moves. He uses them frequently and I feel they should be added to the list. Konigberserk 18:16, 18 November 2006

Type ~~~~ to sign your comments. TJ Spyke 23:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I can just use that instead of typing it all out lol. By the way I had the date wrong...anyway what about someone adding these moves? KonigBerserk 00:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added the barricade move, and the plancha to the list. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  01:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
He usually does a dropkick from inside the ring to the opponent on the outside, lets them gets up and then delivers the plancha. I'm sorry if I wasn't very descriptive in my first message. KonigBerserk 01:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and added the ladder legdrop—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.135.62.114 (talk • contribs)
I added it before along with some other moves but someone just deleted it the next day.KonigBerserk 06:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I added the Placha for you guys too Swanton Bomber 21:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The Extreme Twist of Fate

Hasn't Lita referred to it as the Reverse of Fate at least once back when she was commentating on Sunday Night HEAT during a Jeff match?

It has been called both so mayby both should be added

Also, the The Extreme Twist of Fate should be bolded, since it is one of his finshers. If no one says anything, i`m gonna bold it—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.152.244.93 (talk • contribs)

I've seen him finish various matches with the ETOF. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  17:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I reverted it because I never had, and it was an anon who made the change so I felt free to remove it. If you've seen him finish matches with it, that's good enough for me. Cheers, -- THL 06:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Stop adding week by week stuff

The idea of these entries is NOT to go into details every week, there is no need to go into such detail just for his return match. TJ Spyke 04:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's just ridiculous. No need for all that information here. That's why they have WWE.com. DonMEGĂ|60645 12:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't we at least put in title defenses and Pay-per-views ? Kickurass00 20:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Not every title defense and PPV. Do you think that in a year from now most people will care about every single title match? That is what you have to keep in mind. TJ Spyke 05:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Yea ok, I get it... but, stuff like steel cages would be good to add, especially for Jeff, since he only had 1 victory in a steel cage.

I do believe that most major PPVs should be added. As he isn't the true headliner star that he once was, there shouldn't be too many to worry about. WiiAlbanyGirl 07:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Week by week stuff needs to be addedJoe ferst (talk) 15:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No it doesn't. This is an encylopedia, not a wrestling news site or Jeff Hardy fansite. TJ Spyke 15:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Exactly. Encyclopedias don't go into detail about every stage and event in an actor, politician, or anyone else's careers. Please see WP:N. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Roster

Why has WWE.com still not added Jeff to the RAW roster? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killswitch Engage (talk • contribs)

I am wondering the same thing WWE.com recently just added Harcore Holly and Matt Striker to the ECW Roster but still have not put Jeff Hardy up on the Raw Roster??? I wonder if he is still going to smackdown!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smackdown4ever (talk • contribs)

There we go, Jeff has a WWE profile. All can rest now.

But hey havent put his awesome entrance music!!!

Shouldnt his recent IC Title win be added he won September 3, 2007 at the RAW TV Taping —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.31.41 (talk) 15:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure they will eventually. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  22:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Return to WWE

It irks the hell out of me to see weekly updates. I really hope someone doesn't mention that he's in a six-man tag match tonight. DonMEGĂ|60645 12:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

you just had to put something, didn't you? Is it really necessary to note that JR didn't acknowledge TNA? They're not big enough yet. 64.241.230.3 12:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Here we go again. I could understand mentioning the 6 pack challenge if Jeff Hardy would've won the belt, but the fact remains that he DIDN'T! Was that match a landmark in his career? NO! He didn't win the belt! So what if he came close? Does sanybody care that the Big Boss Man almost beat Hulk Hogan on Saturday Night's Main Event a few decades ago? No, because Hogan kept the title. You people are going to drive me to drink. 64.241.230.3 19:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
This is a frequent kayfabe target for editors(just like John Cena) wanting to add in what happens every week. People need to realize that this is not a wrestling review site. IF Hardy had won the match then yes it would have been noted, but we don't add in every time a wrestler gets a title shot. TJ Spyke 20:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

What's this about death? i cant find any evidence anywhere about thiat?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.19.115 (talk • contribs)

You can't find anything because it's not true. Rumors about famous people dying pop up all the time. TJ Spyke 21:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Whisper in the wind

I think that whisper in the wind (one of jeffs sig moves) refers to his previous gimmick, Willow the Whisp. should this be added? 87.112.10.207 16:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any sources for that? If not, no. -- THL 14:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Not really true, because he uses it weekly Swanton Bomber 23:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

The Whisper in the Wind is where he does a back flip and hits his opponent in the chin with his foot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagejh (talk • contribs) 00:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

And? The desciption is already in the article. TJ Spyke 00:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Someone has put down that he was born in 1978, when it was normally 1977, as IMDb and MANY fansites say. A random vandal has changed the year of birth. Which is true? --D.F. "Jun Kazama Master" Williams 16:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Jeff is 29, and three years younger than Matt. Which would make him born in 1977. --Mikedk9109 (talk to me) (watch me) 22:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Every single week since Jeff returned he's been announced as weighing 225lbs, which looks more or less right considering he looks heavier than he was during his original run. So why on earth does someone keep changing his weight back to 218lb? Unless someone has an official source showing he weghs 218 lb, then surely his weigh should be listed as whatever the WWE announce him to be.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.172.64 (talk • contribs)

Most of the reputable sources that I have seen after googleing Jeff Hardy Weight say that he is either 212 lbs or 225 lbs. The only source I have seen for him being 218 lbs is Answers.com. I would say go with the 225 one, seeing as reputable sources other than the WWE, as well as the WWE itself, say that he weighs 225 lbs. Cheers, -- THL 04:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Answers.com doesn't even really count since they are basically a mirror of Wikipedia (although a few hours behind). So if somebody changed Jeff's weight to 700 pounds and no one changed it for a day or so, it would say the same thing at Answers. TJ Spyke 05:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I know, I said that to show that there was only one source out of the 400 google results I looked through saying that he was 218; where there were many sources saying that he was 212 and 225. I didn't count the WWE in the final vote, and they came out exactly even. That is why I recommend going with the WWE. They actually have access to him and his weight every day, and since they have as much reputable sources for them as they do against them... -- THL 06:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy

do any one know why Jeff Hardy left WWE—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirty dancer124 (talk • contribs)

This isn't a message board. This page is for discussing ways to improve the article; not discuss Jeff Hardy. Also, do your own research. Sometimes I feel like being nice and tell you guys anyway, but you could find the answer to that question on any random fansite. -- THL 14:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

To answer your question, Jeff was reportedly fired for his refusal to enter rehab and his deteriorating in ring work. User:Killswitch Engage

Please be a bit more civil Hybrid. Thank you. Lonelyboy 21:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

picture issue

Please remove this picture of Jeff Hardy in the locker room area. There are several great pictures of Jeff Hardy looking great in his ring attire, colorful hair, and all sorts of stuff, but someone has decided to put a picture in that looks like he's jsut woke up in the morning. It doesn't portray who Hardy is, with the goatte design, hair styles and colors, ring attire, etc. In fact, this doesn't even look like Jeff Hardy. It looks like Ryan Seacrest. Out! Lonelyboy 21:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

This picture is a free use image and free use images are always favored over fair-use ones. There are other images in the article that show Hardy's look. Also, Hybrid was not being incivil. In fact he was just stating the truth as at top of the talk page it says "this talk page is for discussing improvements for the Jeff Hardy article". This is not an open forum. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  21:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

"Do your own research" is what Hybrid said to that user. And it really does not concern you or this area of the discussion page as it says "PICTURE ISSUE" above you. As I said, the picture doesn't even look like Jeff Hardy, but an ugly Ryan Seacrest or something. Please find something better. I'm begging you. For now, it should stay as the picture that looks like Jeff. Lonelyboy 21:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it doesn't concern me? Your the one that butted into Hybrid's conversation in the first place, telling him to "be civil" when all he was doing was stating the truth. The free use picture has to stay. Its a good picture of Jeff, and if you replace the current free use picture with a fair-use one, then it will be considered vandalism. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  21:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok! I just wish there was a better picture of him is all. Also, please do not bring up Hybrid in less it's in that section of the discussion page. Lonelyboy 21:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I was stating the Wikipedia policy about "do your own research before asking a question" in my own words. I was being civil enough. Now, for the picture. I echo the statement about the free use picture having to stay so that we don't break copywrite laws. Believe me, we are all pained by the superiority of the fair use pictures, but the law is the law. Just a quick question for you, this isn't an accusation or anything. Do the names "Twentyboy" or "Hungrygirl" mean anything to you? -- THLCCD 22:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a free encyclopedia, and I can talk about what I want in what section of a talk page that I please. Just because Hybrid's statement was right makes you against him? I'm not going to listen to some sockpuppet that is only here to cause trouble. And that was an accusation, Twentyboy/Hungrygirl. Thank you.--  Mikedk9109  (talk)  22:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Let's leave the entertaining to the wrestlers and leave the drama off of this objective encyclopedia. TY, kiddies. WiiAlbanyGirl 07:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

My reply is six months late, but then again so was yours. That user was a sockpuppet and a troll. That wasn't drama; that was just how things go when users refuse to take the hint that banned means banned. The Hybrid 01:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Tag team moves

Is there any reason why Hardy Boyz tag team moves sould be listed here and not just at the Hardy Boyz article? TJ Spyke 22:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

They are here because they are SIGNATURE moves that Jeff does, that happen to be done with Matt Hardy. Whats the point of having a finishing and signature moves section, if you aren't going to list all of his finishing and signature moves. TJ, I thank you for taking this to the talk page, and not just reverting it. --  Mikedk9109  (hit me up)  22:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
They aren't Jeff Hardy's finishing/signature moves though, they are the Hardy Boyz's finishing/signature moves. TJ Spyke 22:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Jeff is a part of the Hardy Boyz. Plus, I have seen him do Poetry in Motion with other superstars like RVD and Bubba Ray Dudley. --  Mikedk9109  (hit me up)  22:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I've also seen Jeff use the Poetry in Motion in singles competition using the referee. KonigBerserk 04:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
THAT I would love to see. Qubeh 11:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I think i've seen him do that at least once, although not on a regular basis TJ Spyke 23:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Well Jeff has used it with Y2J, Super Crazy, Rey Mysterio. So it would be a HARDY in general sig move L0W3R1D3R | TH3 L0W3D0WN 01:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Interesting fact...

I Googled Jill Hennessy tonight and went to the Internet Movie Database. From there I clicked the biography section, and I found something interesting. Jill shares the same three initials as Jeff, but her middle name is Noel while his is Nero. Do any of you admins think this is notable trivia? --WTGDMan1986 (D.F. "Jun Kazama Master" Williams) 03:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Two people having the same initials is not really notable IMO (unless they make a big deal of it, like when John Kerry was running for president and they said on multiple occasions that he had the same initials as John F. Kennedy). TJ Spyke 03:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah no offense due but thats really nothing to put as trivia I mean Australian Prime Minister John Howard, lets put that in there then, I mean like TJ said unless they make notes of it then tis worthless. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.29.7.60 (talk) 02:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

Vandalism

Someone keeps taking my addition off the page and I am sick of it. All I did was add his New Years Revolution Match. STOP Deleting It! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AD Double J (talk • contribs) 06:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC).

WP:PW guidelines forbid adding future events to articles. Until the match happens, it cannot be mentioned in the article. That is why it keeps getting removed. -- The Hybrid 06:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Uhm Hybrid are u following me to every place I visit. That is a little CREEPY--AD Double J 06:47, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Every page that you edit is on my watchlist. If you look at page histories you will see that I was editing these pages before you ever joined Wikipedia. It is nothing but a coincidence. Cheers, -- The Hybrid 06:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Oooooo, how long have u been apart of wikipedia.org?--AD Double J 06:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Late May, and this is a conversation meant for our talk pages rather than the Jeff Hardy talk page. Cheers, -- The Hybrid 06:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Double J, maybe if you actually did some research and read up on some guidelines, and read warnings, then you would not be in this conversation right now. Future events are not allowed. Wikipedia is not a news site. Check out what wikipedia is not for more information. --  Mikedk9109  (hit me up)  23:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Artistic Pursuits

Under the heading Artistic Pursuits there is information about The Hardy Show and Jeff's appearance on Fear Factor. Can either of these really be considered artistic? Perhaps we should create a new heading such as Other Media for information like that. It could also include the tidbit about appearing on That 70's Show. Thoughts? Nikki311 17:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree with this, because acting can be considered an art. I think it should stay as is. My vote is no. Sorry. WiiAlbanyGirl 07:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Maybe we don't need to make a new section but maybe instead of calling it "Artistic Pursuits" we should just change it to "Personal Life" because not everything on there is about art and music. Such as the Fear Factor and That 70's show. Plus t mentions his house and dirt bike. This is just what I think. Stillboy2191 8:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

MITB

The warning is right there, it says do not add announced matches that haven't occurred yet. Stop adding it in, it will just be reverted as vandalism since you are ignoring the warning that has been in there for months and applies to every wrestling bio article. TJ Spyke 00:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

But the match happened already, and it's important to add a win such as that. What's your problem with adding something important like that? Qubeh 23:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
The MITB match hasn't happened yet, so it can't be added. Qualifying matches are not important. TJ Spyke 23:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
That's more opinion, if anything, but so is what I said. Since I'm really not in the mood to argue with you, I'll go ahead and remove the same from other pages. Qubeh 23:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
The part about qualifying is opinion, but not about listing the MITB match. TJ Spyke 23:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
That's what I meant. Qubeh 00:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, OK. TJ Spyke 00:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it's safe to say that this case is closed since the match already happened, although it would be nice to see if someone would be able to find out if Adam Copeland and Jeff were really hurt. I'd like to find out. And what was with the edit saying "This is one of my pet peeves" --- Does anyone know what that means??? WiiAlbanyGirl 07:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Having "WrestleMania" linked as "Wrestlemania". It just bugs me because it's wrong and it's not hard to capitalize the "M". TJ Spyke 07:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I understand it is important to keep accuracy in each and every article in terms of accurate spelling, but the majority of people will probably type that. Also, they still get directed to 'WrestleMania'. I think we should worry more about accurate content and protecting the article from kayfabe speculation more so than anything else. WiiAlbanyGirl 19:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
That's why I marked it as a tiny edit. It's not a big thing, it's just one of those little things that annoy me (it's like when someone scratched their nails on a chalkboard). TJ Spyke 21:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

TWF

Just listening to a jeff hardy interview where he says that the TWF was actually called the trampoline wrestling federation Source Bencey 17:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Theme Music

Ummm, does any1 know what jeff hardy's theme music is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.123.70 (talk • contribs)

It's the same music he and Matt used as a team for several years, I don't know the name (or really care to be honest). TJ Spyke 01:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe it isn't up to you to necessarily care, but if you're going to write an encyclopedia article, I believe the appropriate entrance music should be included in the Wrestler's biography. If it was your personal encyclopedia, it would be one thing. It's best to find out as much info as possible for a well-written encyclopedia article, however. WiiAlbanyGirl 07:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

i knew what it was and how long theyve used it, i wanted to know the name—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.123.70 (talk • contribs)

  • I don't think it has any name except for "Jeff Hardy Theme Song" Talon Kelson 19:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
It's a production theme from Extreme Music. It's listed under their X-Series collection as "Loaded" by Zack Tempest. --  oakster  TALK  21:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

His theme music is 2xtreme by Zack Tempest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.141.108 (talk • contribs)

NO his theme song was edited by Zack Tempest but it's called Loaded by Death From Above 1979 L0W3R1D3R (talk) 02:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

10 or 20 Team?

the hardy's won the tag belts on the April 2, 2207 edition of Raw. But was it a 10 team match? or 20 team, the match was recycled (done twice). Dro Boy April 2 , 2007 22:57

There were two (seperate) 10-team battle royals. They were seperate matches. TJ Spyke 03:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

New Move

I keep trying to add the Suplex to Facebuster that Jeff has been doing recently, but someone keeps removing it. I don't know if that is the proper name of the move but Jeff definatly DOES do it so it should be added and left there. 80.229.169.189 13:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I have seen your edits but you have not seen mine. I already said it is listed as a Sitout inverted suplex slam so there is no need to add the same move to the list. - Deep Shadow 05:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

No-Show

Can somebody please list that he no-showed the 30th July Raw causing them to re-do the whole show.

We don't do week-by-week events here on Wikipedia. Wizardman 22:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Plus, that is just speculation. Nikki311 22:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by them re-doing the whole show? I would think if he no-showed, then they would just replace his part in the match. Ladder4321 22:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Well maybe you should do week to week it will be alot easier and it will cause less mass confusion216.37.254.68

That makes sense. Since people have so much time on thier hands to know every little thing that happens every week for the countless years he's been wrestling Swanton Bomber 22:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

WWE has given Jeff Hardy some time off

Source - http://www.JeffNeroHardy.com, and Tamran got it from http://www.TheHardyShow.com

So WWE gave him time off to heal some neck and back injuries he suffered from his recent match with Mr. Kennedy where he botched the Whisper In The Wind. Ladder4321 02:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

it doesnt say anywere that he was suspended just that he hurt himself. btw 4 the article, does any1 kno how long he will be out

That was to stop fans thinking he was fired, hes been reportedly suspened because of Bad Conduct, although, with the low rating right now and recent injuries, I wouldnt be suprised if his punishment was lifted.Keano62871 21:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking the same. 'Cause if ratings are low and Jeff isn't there, it would get a little boring. He's one of the main reasons I watch RAW. Ladder4321 00:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Jim Ross postedc on his blog that jeff will not be wrestling in the wwe for at least 30 days, the article does not directly state that hardy has been susspended but i think its a safe bet that he has been susspended

Asumeing? Thanks not the wikipedia I know.

All major wrestling sites are reporting injury, and Jeff posted it on his own blog; there is no one legitimately reporting it as suspension, and this is speculation. I'm editing the suspension out and replacing it with injury; while Jeff may not be an unbiased source, it's the most legitimate source for this news that's come out. --CWSensationt 19:10, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy won the IC Belt from Umaga at the RAW taping on 9/2/07, this was posted on pwinsider.com Flaguy 13:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)flaguy 9/3/07

Jeff Hardy entry Locked?

Why is the Jeff Hardy page locked? I visited the page like 2 weeks before Summerslam to see if Jeff was fired. Since he hadnt wrestled on Raw for a few weeks. It was unlocked then why is it locked now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peroxnero (talk • contribs) 03:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The article is just semi-protected. That means IP's and accounts less than 4 days old can't edit it, everyone else can. The logs say it's been this way since June 12. That is pretty long, so I will request it be unprotected. 01:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ Spyke (talk • contribs)

new nick name

Why dosnt anyone include his new nickname into his page, 'The Ranbow Haired Worrier"?? --Deathtopplintheir40s 01:22, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it has been in the article for some time now. Check under the nicknames section under the Wrestling facts heading. Nikki311 01:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of new nicknames, wasn't the Charismatic Enigma originated in WWE but only sparingly used until he went to TNA? Cause I know I've heard it in WWE before. 63.3.16.1 23:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Tattoos

I think we should add something about jeff's tatts every one nows he has them so we should put info about them on this page most of the other wrestlers who have tattoos have info about them on thier page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.86 (talk • contribs)

Find a reliable source that talks about them first. TJ Spyke 22:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

it a little out dated but http://anne_jeff_hardy.tripod.com/TeamXtreme/id2.html has info about them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.86 (talk • contribs)

and heres a good one it tells you of his tattoos and where they are http://www1.freewebs.com/hardyboyzfansite7/jeffhardy.htm now willl you ols but his tattoos on this page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.86 (talk • contribs)

Fansites are not reliable sources. Nikki311 02:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Whats wrong with them can we just put somwthing about his tattoos on his page is that to hard to ask —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.86 (talk • contribs)

WWE.com has started a new feature where they talk about tattoos that their superstars have and talk with them. Here is the one on Jeff: http://www.wwe.com/inside/superstarink/articles/jeffhardy TJ Spyke 00:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, that's timely, isn't it? Nikki311 01:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

so when are we putting them on the page then —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.100.54 (talk) 07:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Week by week events

I guess some editors either want to be vandals or can't read. You are not supposed to add week by week events or future matches. When I remove them though these vandals just keep adding them back. Anybody else who wants to help out by removing them would be appreciated. TJ Spyke 04:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Somebody needs to put something down about him beat HHH at Armegeddon to earn a title shot at the Royal Rumble. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.212.34 (talk) 21:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

*smacks head against desk* Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with not adding future matches, but I do think that his victory over HHH should be noted, as it marks the first time he has been the #1 Contender for a World title in the WWE, as far as i know. (Sawyer (talk) 02:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC))

I agree that it's notable enough to be included. But he was once the number one contender and lost a ladder match for the title to Taker. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yup, I remember. He lost the Undertaker match, when the WWE Championship was the WWE Undisputed Championship. In the UK, it was featured during RAW on a "Video from the Vault" recently, and Jim Ross says "Make Yourself Famous Jeff". Yep, I remember now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.72 (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I THINK SOME ONE NEEDS TO ADD TO HIS PAGE THAT HE DOES IN FACT HAVE A GIRLFRIEND AND HER NAME IS BETH.I.love.jeff (talk) 08:09, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:V and WP:BLP, such info would have to have a reliable source. TJ Spyke 08:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

ive got pics from his brothers myspaceI.love.jeff (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)Image:l_d6f0796ab45fceb159d3a5bc6415df70.jpg]]

That doesn't proof she's his girlfriend or that her name is Beth. It's not that I don't think we should add stuff like this, but it has to be solid proof (like Matt saying something like "Jeff is currently dating a woman named Beth"). TJ Spyke 09:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)its not that hard to see that that is his girl just go to matt hardy's my space and the proof is in the pics just look for ur self if u wanna go there then go under my profile its i_live_through_him@hotmail.com and his profile is in my top 8 I.love.jeff (talk) 06:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
It probably is his girfriend. Unless a reliable source says it is though, it would just be original research (see WP:OR). TJ Spyke 07:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

In regards to Jeff Hardy's Girlfriend, If you go to Matt's myspace page he has recently opened a blog up for questions, one of which was a fan asking if Jeff and Beth were ever going to get married_ Matt's answer was that he didn't know if they would ever have an official/traditional wedding but they were pretty much already married in their own way. Jeff and Beth have been together for at least 6 years that I know of (see msn group Jeff and Beths Babies- run by a friend of the Hardys) and also it's all over Matt's myspce that Jeff's girlfriends name is Beth- is Matt a reliable enough source?122.109.3.118 (talk) 10:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)chelle

Jeff Hardy's Dad's Name

I just thought I should bring it to someone's attention that Jeff and Matt's father's name is Claude Gilbert Hardy. They said it in the Hardy Show Season 4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hbkcenarockaddict (talk • contribs) 21:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide a specific link? TJ Spyke 23:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
On Matt's official MySpace this picture (and possibly others) bears the legend Claude for their father (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=152686889&albumID=1462367&imageID=1285913) but I don't know how suitable a source this is. Tony2Times (talk) 00:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd say that Matt and Jeff's words are a reliable source. They always call him "The Legend, Claude G." as in Claude Gilbert (Hardy). Ladder4321 (talk) 08:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Not following

I read the rules saying that week to week news is not allowed. I simply put that he has been feuding with randy orton for over 3 weeks now. That is hardly "news" or anything upcoming. This is something that the average reader should know. This is an encyclopedia which is used to inform people. Anyone who follows Jeff Hardy should know about this or they would be lost. Minutes after I posted, it was deleted. This is something that should be there. It's not like I put down that he was to face Randy Orton in the Royal Rumble (an upcoming fight). I simply put that he was currently feuding with him. Jeez... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icehoc96 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Feuds aren't listed until they are over. And please sign your comments. NiciVampireHeart (talk) 19:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats dumb. Then why do we have articles on the Iraq War? That is is an ongoing feud just like I posted. The fact that he's feuding with Randy Orton is important. The average person would be lost with Jeff if they didn't know about his feud with Randy Orton.(talk) 15:24, 14 January 2008

There is a difference between the Iraq war and professional wrestling. Only notable information goes into pro wrestling articles and until a fued is over, how do we know if it has advanced or had a significant impact on someone's career or not? That is why we wait until the end of the fued. Plus, with all the info that's in Jeff's article I highly doubt "The average person would be lost with Jeff if they didn't know about his feud with Randy Orton". NiciVampireHeart (talk) 20:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

His Swanton Bomb dive from the TitanTron

I've read the rules and all concerning the no week-by-week synopsis mumbojumbo (which I find to be ridiculous concerning the fact that this is his first WWE Championship title shot), and I'm left wondering why the entry on his 25-30 foot dive from the TitanTron onto Randy Orton keeps getting deleted. It was clearly the largest Swanton Bomb he's ever done, and given light that this will probably be replayed in WWE broadcasts for quite some time to come, I think this should be included. It's certainly a notable event.Srosenow 98 (talk) 08:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Your very first sentence is wrong. This will NOT be his first WWE Championship match. Back in 2002 he faced The Undertaker in a Ladder match for the WWE Undisputed Championship. This was what led to Undertaker becoming a face again (he had been a heel) because he said he respected the effort Hardy gave in the match. TJ Spyke 09:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I certainly stand corrected, then. Srosenow 98 (talk) 10:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
That being said I find the Titontron swanton extremely notable. I understand we like ot wait untila fued culminates before writing it, but how hard is it to write something like "Hardy is currently involved in a kayfabe feud with WWE Champion Randy Orton. They will meet for the WWE title at the RR. During the weeks prior to the match, Jeff Hardy hit a Swanton off the titontron scaffolding on orton" I mean, i think something like this is already quite notable.LessThanClippers (talk) 20:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
The part about the RR match would be deleted right away (by me or other users). TJ Spyke 23:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
You should explain why, TJ. I'd do it, but then Srosenow 98 will just reject our consensus... so you try it. :D Cheers, Lex T/C Guest Book 00:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
OK. The consensus from WP:PW (the WikiProject that covers pro wrestling) is that future matches are not noted in articles (other than the PPV articles of coarse). This means that the WWE Championship match at the Royal Rumble can not be mentioned in articles until after the match happens. TJ Spyke 00:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying I'd totally reject the consensus, but I'm also one that believes that maybe Wikipedia should break away from trying to be "just another encyclopedia" and maybe trying something different, and definitely outside of the box (which Wikipedia seems to be against these days). And certainly get rid of a lot of the bureaucracy that goes on, especially in projects like WP:PW and the like. Me personally, I'm having a tough time believing that using the Swanton Bomb from a height of nearly 30 feet is hardly considered notable. I can almost bet the house and farm that WWE will be using this clip for years to come whenever any mention of Jeff Hardy is made. I literally sat stunned and at the edge of my seat until RAW went to black. I mean, he literally executed a move that spanned a height equivalent to the length of a full-size school bus standing on end, and that, I think, should be included in this article without having to wait this feud out. Hell, for all we know, this feud could last well into SummerSlam! Does that mean that if this feud culminates at SummerSlam, the entry should be included only then? I pray to think not.Srosenow 98 (talk) 07:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy vs Randy Orton

At the Royal Rumble Jeff will face Randy for the WWE Championship but Jeff and Orton have already did stuff to each other to fire each other up for their BIG match. Orton has brutally attack Matt back stage and Jeff has did the SWANTON BOMB!!! from 30 feet high a REALLY hurt Orton and hiself.

Yes, but feuds are not added until their completion. See the "Not following" section above. Also, please sign your comments. NiciVampireHeart (talk) 20:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

2008

Jeff Hardy faces Randy Orton on the January 14 episode of Raw. Randy Orton immediately gets disqualified with a low blow. A braw still continued. Randy attemptd to kick Jeff in the head, but Jeff found the strength to throw Randy of the stage. Jeff Hardy climbed nearly 30 feet and unleashed a swanton bomb on Randy Orton. Neither of the wrestlers were moving and were taken away by paramedics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parkhu12 (talk • contribs)

So? TJ Spyke 23:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
1:Most of us know that if we are wrestling fans, and why would a non wrestling fan come to this page? they wouldnt. 2:Its no good here on a discussion page. 3:it will be in the article soon. and 4:Read the above comments.---The Great One 10:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


Name

Theres no point in putting "Jeff" in quotes in his name, its not a nickname, its just jeffery in short, so im changing it, got a problem then say so. cheers.---The Great One 10:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

With articles on people who don't use their full name, most have the short version in quotes (Bill Clinton and Al Gore for example). He's always called Jeff, not Jeffrey. TJ Spyke 10:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy's In bad shape

I believe this should be added somewhere in the article. Jeff Hardy was interviewed this week by Charleston's The Post and Carrier newspaper. Hardy revealed that his body was in very bad shape. Below is what Hardy had to say:

"My ankles are really weak. A lot of that stems from motocross in the past. I've got a (bone) chip in my right kneecap now, pain in my elbows and two herniated discs in my neck and my back. I'm not feeling great, but I've been extremely lucky that I've gone this far without surgery. So I'll just keep knocking on metal or wood." Krauser93 (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

In fairness, wrestlers are in bad shape the whole time, always with some little niggle or some pain somewhere in their body - it's the life of a prowrestler. IMHO, I don't believe it should be added unless he actually has to take some time off to recover. NiciVampireHeart (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

The Legend Thriller

Ok, this is has been added and removed from the article a few times, so I thought I would post my opinion here. Personally, I think it should be left out of the article for a few more weeks, and then should be reconsidered if it has been used more. It has been used about twice post-Orton feud, and that is not enough to warrant inclusion IMO. JR might stop calling Jeff "the legend thriller" anytime soon, so we need to wait and see if it is going to become a permanent nickname. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 19:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, it isn't an "official" nickname by any means. Nikki311 22:44, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


DVD

I was on Matt's MySpace and there is a new Hardy dvd called "Twist of Fate-The Matt and Jeff Hardy Story" someone needs to put it up --L0W3R1D3R | TH3 L0W3D0WN 21:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not being released for about 2/3 months. When it's out it'll be put up, and info will probably be taken from it as well. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 00:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Jeff's new intro music

Does anyone have any information pertaining to his new intro music and should that infor be uploaded to the article? - RVDDP2501 (talk) 02:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes it should be added, no I have no info on it. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Nickname source

I see that the WWE's "Power 25" list was cited as a source for "The Rainbow-Haired Warrior" nickname, but the only issue with that is the fact the page is not static, and is updated.

However, I did find this information:

References Jeff as the "Rainbow-haired Warrior": http://www.wwe.com/shows/royalrumble/matches/52676103211/results/

References Jeff as the "Legend Thriller": http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/jimross/sotwarchive/020108sotw

Hope that helps. Hazardous Matt (talk) 23:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I added them both. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 00:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

boston celtics

should we put on this page that jeff is celtics fan i have seen the pictures on the Peroxwhy?gen myspace almost everyone with jeff has him with a celtics top both home and away and ive seen him in one at a signing event with one on and some pics on matts myspace hashim with the boston shirt on —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.103.236 (talk) 01:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so, I heard him saying somewhere that he has "a bunch of basketball jerseys of people I don't even know" --L0W3R1D3R | TH3 L0W3D0WN 21:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hair?

Why in every couple of matches Jeff changes his hair die? Sometimes it's ginger, red and then rainbow he's never consistent.

Ooops am I breaking the rules on Wikipedia not being a forum? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 20:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, see the top of the page. This is for discussing ways to improve the article, not for general discussion on Jeff. TJ Spyke 01:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

What a S.W.A.T you are!!

OMEGA Heavyweight Championship

There is a discrepancy here. The title history in that Championship's article never lists Jeff (under any of his ring names) as having won that title. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I clicked on the citation listed in the article, and it links to a history for the OMEGA tag team championship. On the same site, there is a OMEGA Heavyweight history, and it shows he never won it. I'm going to remove it from the article, as it is incorrect. Good catch. Nikki311 01:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up. :) Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Debut

He didn't debut against 123 kid it was Scott Hall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.212.34 (talk) 20:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Give a reliable source, and sign your comments please. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
And a reliable source means it can't violate copyright laws (i.e. no YouTube videos of WWE content, since those are illegally being hosted). TJ Spyke 01:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Suspension

Hardy has been banned for 60 days reportedly this is legit apparently. I am slightly skeptical about this. While I'm in no doubt Hardy has been suspended I struggle to see it being legit. WWE is fake there is always a pre-determined winner so why in that case would you need to take drugs?

It sounds utterly untrue to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 20:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Um, try checking wwe.com, it's real. Wrestling being real or fake has nothing to do with anything. A lot of non-athletes take steroids. TJ Spyke 20:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy was my favorite wrestler.....YESTERDAY. He should be fired...Just like Chris Masters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.166.125.19 (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Jesus Christ, are you this thick? All wrestling is choreographed as well as pre-determined the pysichality is real for the sake of the art. Learn a little about the buisness —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. R.K.Z (talk • contribs)

No personal attacks. And it is real. You're not going to see Jeff Hardy for at least 60 days. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
It may have not even been 'roids. I'd peg Hardy as more likely to smoke pot or something like that. He doesn't have the look of anyone that's ever used 'roids. And the suspension is real. All sources say so. The only kayfabe suspension I can ever recall them doing was Ashley's when she went on Survivor. Any suspension that specifies the Wellness Policy is real. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know what he got suspended for? If it was pot then that is just hippocratic because Orton does that all the time and HHH is on Steroids too. Well does anyone know?--WillC (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
That info was never released. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 21:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I just wonder why they would suspend their most pushed superstar.--WillC (talk) 21:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
wikipedia is not a forum. This really isn't the best place to discuss this. The info we have is that he violated the wellness policy, so that's what's in the article. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 21:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
He was not suspended for steroids. He was suspended for testing positive for opiates. Marijuana had nothing to do with it. I don't have a reliable source for it and don't care if it is put in the article or not and or whether you believe me or not, doesn't change the fact that he tested positive for opiates that were not prescribed to him from his doctor at the time of the failed test. That is what he failed for. There is no reliable source because the information is not suppose to be out there. It really doesn't matter how I know/found out/so called guessed/hypothesized/have knowledge for/whatever you want to call it. And for those who think it's bulls**t, that's cool, I don't care. And for those who agree and or believe this, then call it a relapse because that is pretty much what it was whether he was in pain or not at the time. Doesn't really seem justified to me, all he had to do was get the prescription. So in that case, relapse. Either way, i'm disappointed, as i'm sure all of his fans are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.229.206 (talk) 06:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


Unless there is a statment from WWE or wwe.com, there is no proof he tested positive for opiates. It doesn't belong in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.62.126 (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe that anyone put it in the article. And if you read what I was saying, I wasn't trying to put that in the article. Discussion pages are only to help improve/expand an article. Not to come up with ideas on what someone failed a drug test for. So I was trying to put an end to it. There are rumors that it was Crystal Meth but it wasn't. It was opiates. Even if there was clear cut proof from wwe.com saying that he failed the test for opiates or even crystal meth, it should not be in the article. Jeff Hardy being suspended for 60 days due to his second violation of the WWE Wellness Policy is far good enough. So it really doesn't matter what he failed for and if we ever get a great sure 100% proof on what it was, it just doesn't matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.229.206 (talk) 21:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Everyone relax a little. There is no point in arguing about this as the likelihood of a reliable source for this type of controversial material is so close to zero, it doesn't actually exist. This makes this conversation rather redundant, so lets all just get on with improving wikipedia. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 21:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)