Talk:Jef Raskin
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Here is an ideal example of how to turn lemons into lemonade. The original contents of this page was the following graffito:
- bibity bobity boooooooooo
So I looked up Jef Raskin on Google and took a couple of minutes to throw together a stub. --Ed Poor
"His first computer program, a music program, was part of his master's thesis."
How likely is it that this was really his "first" program? Maybe something like "first large-scale program" or "first significant program"?
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Will be adding. He was the 31st employee of Apple and coined the name Macintosh and Information Appliance Jondel
[edit] Family
Despite the mention of his son's authorship of the photo included, there is no mention of family and children in the text. Ought this be rectified? ~ Dpr 06:49, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- You are right. However, I just e-mailed Aza on Jef's passing to request permission for Jef's photos. During that difficult time, he immediately got back to me and gave the permission (Aza also mentioned he'd taken over the technical leadership of the Archy Project and Raskin Center for Humane Interfaces to "push forward with his dream and vision". I couldn't ask more (about the family, etc) so I said "Thanks" and substituted that lovely photo with the one originally on the article. Here's what I've been able to find so far, from [| his homepage], ref: his family:
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- 1992 Daughter Aenea Hannah,
- 1987 Daughter Aviva Frieda,
- 1984 Son Aza Benjamin,
- 1982 Married Linda S. Blum
[edit] Tribute
Should we move that tribute to the talk page? mu5ti/✏ 22:37, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)
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- I thought it was a good spot to put that tribute. it shows how he is still looked upon as an important member of the computer world. ZeWrestler 23:15 Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Correction
The article says (as of 2005 Mar 14):
Raskin takes credit for introducing Jobs and other Apple employees to the PARC concepts, but it appears this is not really the case. Raskin also claims to have had continued direct input into the eventual Mac design, including the decision to use a one-button mouse as part of the Apple interface, a departure from the Xerox PARC standard of a three-button mouse. Larry Tesler, among others, debates this claim.
I will attempt an objective critique of the cited passage. Because Jef was such an early employee of Apple, I do believe he was one of the first people there to talk about PARC-developed concepts with his colleagues. In the summer of 1980, he helped me argue for reducing the number of buttons on the Lisa to one. In the summer of 2004, he told me in an email that he had concluded in the 1970's that a one-button mouse would reduce user errors. He said he did not know at the time that other people had reached that same conclusion a few years earlier. I think this was because the people at PARC who Jef met in the '70s only showed him software that relied on all three buttons on an early Xerox mouse. Although he helped the Lisa team to improve the Lisa mouse, Jef's Macintosh design was keyboard-centric. --Larry Tesler 06:33, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
As I recall, Jef told me that Jobs was not fond of him at the time, so he had to get other people to suggest that Jobs and others visit PARC. In the course of that, the visitors were primed with not widely known information about the PARC GUI work; the people they met with were very impressed with the quality of the Apple visitors' questions. Because of the looseness of the claims and counter claims for credit re introducing Jobs to PARC, I believe that both are quite true. --Dick Karpinski 19 Dec 2005 (If verifiability rules require documentation then this paragraph may have to be removed.)
