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[edit] Minor Edit

Initial paragraph said that traditional jean manufacturers included Jordache. Jordache is not traditional and originated in the 1970's. Replaced it with Lee Jeans.

Also, I hope I speak for most when I say: Ted Fox, you have contributed nothing constructive to this conversation. Please keep your offensive comments to yourself. Johnbradleytlh (talk) 21:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Types section

This lists types of *denim clothing* -- not jeans. I have moved it to the denim page. Naniwako 18:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Naniwako

[edit] "Corduroy" jeans?

Aren't jeans supposed to refer strictly to pants made out of denim? I think that's supposed to be their defining characteristic.

As I understand it, jeans were canvas before denim, tho when you think of jean jackets and jean skirts the term has indeed come to imply denim. It would be good if the article could actually DEFINE jeans,which it doesn't at present.IceDragon64 18:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks like at 17:13, 15 October 2007 , someone added "not" in front of the word "corduroy" in the first paragraph. It now seems out of place in my opinion, because there are lots of fabrics that are not included in what can make jeans. However, I'm almost positive I've seen corduroy pants marketed as jeans. Without a reference, it's hard to say, but I think this opening bit could use some revision no matter what the end result. Dwringer (talk) 06:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how anyone could consider a pair of corduroy trousers 'jeans', I've got a suit made out of corduroy (You'd look pretty daft in a suit made out of denim, I don't like jeans, I only ever had one pair and I threw them on a bonfire last year, Although they were the right waist size they crushed my privates, I always thought Americans had no balls, turns out it's true)-Ted Fox 13:59 23 March 2008 (GMT)

[edit] "The Good LifE"

"In Eastern Europe, blue jeans symbolize American culture and "the good life". - Removed that false statement which isn't citated or backed up. In My firsthand experience in life in eastern europe the statement doesn't apply at all or thought about that way. Jeans are a global fashion, though originating from America. If it isn't false, it is surely an outdated statement. Mehicdino 20:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Sizing?

I'm not very familiar with the current standard in jeans sizing. I believe several countries have their own systems, sometimes multiple (USA's male waist/inseam vs USA's female single digit). There seems to be no online source for a conversion table or explanation and a wikipedia article would be perfect for this. 24.108.153.22 10:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

And even more confusing, the different brands of jeans have their own sizing systems. A size 6 in one brand can be quite different than another brand. There is a very valuable tool available for women that provides an online digital tailor which is very easy to use. All you have to do is answer a few questions and the site will choose the best jeans for your body style. This can be found at #REDIRECT [[1]] Suzik 22:23, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pair?

Why is it a pair of jeans? Jigen III 11:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Same reason it's a "pair" of pants? Pnkrockr 15:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
it's just one of those things you don't question. thatdarngirl 13:21, 29 November 2006 (FR)
I think one leg is a pant while two legs make it a pair of pants. 156.34.208.130 01:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Though people specify "pant-leg" when referring to one leg or the other, rather than just saying "pant". But then, Larry the Cable Guy says "buffet-bar" instead of just "buffet" so maybe that's just another grammatical feature of English vernaculars. Dwringer (talk) 06:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] smaller pocket

was wondering if anyone knew anything about the smaller pocket within the right hand side pocket of many jeans?

I believe it was also used for a coin pocket.
its a watch pocket
In Australia I grew up calling it a "fob pocket" — Hippietrail 02:19, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I just found out today that that pocket, on all of the jeans that I own, snugly fits a Zippo lighter Zoobtoob 23:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
it's where the fob when wich is the danggly part of a pocket watch

Levi's ran an ad where a man uses the pocket to keep condoms ending with. "The watch pocket, invented in 1873, misused ever since." BKnoss 17:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

While Cigarette Lighters fit in easily as well as coins, pocket watches do NOT fit (I tried with my Smiths Empire Pocket Watch, prehaps American Pocket watches were smaller, since my Watch is English-made)-User:GeorgeFormby1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeFormby1 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

It's probably a mix of the watch and the jeans--if one tries to fit a larger watch into a smaller watch pocket, the fit will be off. I have an open-faced Vacheron Constantin watch (Swiss-made) from 1908 that could fit into the watch pocket of my Levis. However, the watch pocket, unlike the larger side pockets, is generally unlined, and I wouldn't want to expose either the glass or the gold of my watch to rough denim. I wouldn't suggest wearing a pocket watch with jeans, but if you do, I think it would be wise, indeed, to keep the fob in the watch pocket (making the Australian term probably the more sensible), and the watch itself in the larger pocket, where it has at least some protection (the lining is usually still rough, but softer than denim). Anglican (talk) 18:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] When washing

Why do you have to turn them inside out before placing them in the washing machine? Is it to protect the washer from rivets and buttons? Or does it wear out the color like this link suggests ([2]), ([3])?--Jerryseinfeld 14:40, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jeans and water

What's with the heavy focus of the page on wearing jeans underwater?

LOL yeah... you'd think they were designed for swimming and that there is no other technology suitable for that role. There really should be a lot more about the trendy fashioncentric aspect of jeans which IMO much better represents them in the past 30-40 years. And some non-Levis info. I'd do it myself but I don't really follow jeans or fashion myself. Gabe 01:47, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I agree, the article's focus on jeans as water clothing is pretty odd. Rhobite 00:16, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
I removed it, removed it all!!! OK, maybe I was right, and maybe I was wrong, but most of it was unverifiable. Anyone who wants to re-add the nonsense about "Jeans and Water" had better do so with plenty of verifiable and unbiased sources, but otherwise, the article was looking like a joke. func(talk) 00:27, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A User:Gary1850 placed this on my talk page:

Am sorry to see the part about water and jeans taken out as it is information that is hard to find and relevent to history of jeans and WWII.I have seen the photographs of solders in south pacific wearing 501 levis during WWII and because of that the south seas natives wore cutoff levis shorts up till about the late 1960s.One of the problems with todays search engines is they ar'nt good at getting information on articals from magazenes and newspapers that had a lot of usful information on obscure subjects such as jeans in south pacific during WWII but arnt well indext and not digitalized.As the WWII veterens are dying off in such numbers the storys of the levis in south pacific may be lost forever and you may be doing disservice by removing one of only places that that information would be found and some veterin coming forward with the information and photos.I am trying to get the DVD of Victory at Sea that I beleve there are shots of solders wearing the levis 501s.I will go frame by frame to get any photos of them, also may be some books with the photos but my library doesnt have the quality needed.As to scuba diving that also was true in coral reefs to protect yout legs.Also dificult to sabstantiat as it took place befor digital age and iformation is lost in magaziene artical that may never be digitalized in our time.
Gary Wilkerson
have no idea on how to post to jeans discussion?

func(talk) 01:15, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fits

It would be helpful if someone knowledgeable in the different type of fits (straight, bootcut, etc.) could put some photos or sketches distinguishing the different types of jeans styles.

Agreed. I can't be the only person who finds it rather confusing... --11:12, 19 February 2006 (UTC)EddieBernard

Ditto: I arrived on this page only because I was looking for a sort of schematic comparison of different types of jeans. Evil.Iron.Owls.

jeans were nused as a flotation device. tie the legs together and capture air in the open part and vwala a flotation device

[edit] Cleanup - Jeans in popular culture

'Levi's are known for their rugged construction, personal "shrink-to-fit", and versatility. Originally worn by miners, farmers, and cowboys, Levis are worn and seen in all walks of life.'
What is this, a Levis ad? And what does it have to do with the section it is in, Levis in popular culture? I've added a cleanup tag. - David Scarlett 22:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] proposal for "styles" subsection

i think that something explaining all the popular types of jeans, like low riders, torn jeans, bell bottoms, etc. would be beneficial. i was surprised that these topics already didn't get more coverage in the article. Joeyramoney 21:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pressing jeans?

"Western Europeans may press their jeans like dress pants for a more formal appearance" - sorry but this is nonsense! I've removed it. 143.252.80.110 18:37, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

"Western Europeans" don't even exist! (I object entirely to being called a European, I'm BRITISH, I'm seperated from those garlic eating, jackbooted bad losers by 26 miles of water)-Ted Fox 14:04 23 March 2008 (GMT)

[edit] prohibition

Didn't a couple of kids in the soviet union get executed (or arrested) for wearing jeans

That's changed my entire outlook on the Soviet Union, They can't be that bad if they banned jeans!-Ted Fox 14:00 23 March 2008 (GMT)

[edit] Such a small article

Kinda surprising since jeans are such an important part of global fashion --AnYoNe! 13:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

As so often happens on Wikipedia, an important section was lost during a clumsy reversion of vandalism. Instead of actually reverting the vandal's work, an anon user deleted the nonsense, not bothering to check that the nonsense replaced a whole section of the article. --Tysto 04:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorting the 'fits' list

Well, I just finished sorting the 'fits' list so then it's all in alphabetical order (with the exception of '"mom's" jeans') and also added "Relaxed fit" to it. --Ampersand2006 ( talk · user page design ) 02:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)