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Contents 1 Affaire Elsie Lefebvre 2 The Honorable 3 "John" Charest? 4 ADQ: ? seats 5 Order of Merit of Bavaria 6 Assessment 7 Recent edits by IPs in the 65.94.xx.xx range

[edit] Affaire Elsie Lefebvre

I have reverted the last edit. The word that Charest used was chienne,, i.e., a female dog, or "bitch". See Radio Canada. Ground Zero 14:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Also, I have removed the list of Cabinet ministers, which belongs, and appears, at Executive Council of Quebec. Ground Zero 14:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Honorable

Should we leave "The Honorable" in? This custom is not that common in Quebec, especially for a Premier of Quebec. Maybe because of the strong equalitarian and republican spirit in Quebec. The other articles for Premiers of Quebec do not have this title. --Liberlogos 4 July 2005 04:31 (UTC)

I guess if it is part of his official title, it should be include no matter if it is commnly used or not.

Regarding your comment, does this mean that english language media in canada commonly refer to politicians by preceeding their name with "the honourable", "the right honourable" and the like ? Does it extend to everyday speech ? (obviously, I wouldn't know). --Marc pasquin 16:23, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

A somewhat belated answer to Marc...not really. If there's an occasion, it'll be printed on the invitations/programs as "The Hon. Rory McTory" or whatever, but it's not used in everyday English.Habsfannova 02:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Charest is The Honourable by virtue of having been a federal cabinet minister and thus is a member of the Queen's Privy Council of Canada. As for Marc's question, no, the media doesn't usually refer to politicians that way.Homey 03:32, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

This is addressed in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Honorific_prefixes. The conclusion is that honorifics can be referenced in the text, but should not be used in the first instance. --Saforrest 06:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "John" Charest?

Anyone have an article about the whole "John/Jean" thing? His parliament page lists him as Jean, and they usually use full names.Habsfannova 17:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

A well-known story tells that Father Moisan, that christened Charest, wrote "John" on the act of baptism despite that he had been told to write "Jean" (Henri Motte, Monique Guillot, "Jean Charest, l'homme des défis", Montréal, Le Griot éditeur, 1997). However, Claude "Red" Charest, the father of the premier, gave a different version. As his wife is Irish and was speaking mostly English, he asserts that she must have told Father Moisan "Name him John James", since Father Moisan was perfectly bilingual. Indeed, he himself had been calling his son "Jean" until Charest received his Law School diploma. (André Pratte, "L'énigme Charest", Les éditions du Boréal, 1998) J.P. Demers 00:11, Oct 9, 2006

Deleted "The vast majority of French Quebecers are not aware that his legal name is not Jean." Cite a source on this if you want to revive it. Cory.willis 03:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ADQ: ? seats

"In the 2007 election, the Liberals won 48 seats, forming a minority government in a near three-way-split of votes and seats. (PLQ: 48 seat, ADQ: seats, PQ :36 seats) Mr. Charest won his own riding of Sherbrooke with a majority of 1332 votes. In 2003 he obtained a majority of 2597 votes while in 1998, he received a majority of 907 votes."

How many seats did the ADQ win? --Mayfare 00:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order of Merit of Bavaria

Jean Charest received the Order of Merit of Bavaria [1]. If anyone finds a goood spot to include it, go for it. Blur4760 01:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

I have assessed this as B class given its level of detail and organization, although it requires more referencing and in-line citations, especially since it's an article about a current politician. I have assessed this as low importance, as I do not feel that many people outside of Canada would be familiar with the subject of the article, despite the fact that he is the current premier. Cheers, CP 16:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits by IPs in the 65.94.xx.xx range

Someone that should read WP:SOAP keep s changing Mr. Charest's nationality and birthplace from being Canada to QUebec. It seems to me to be pretty clear the Mr. Charest is a Canadian citizen and was born in Quebec. Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)