Talk:Jealous Guy

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[edit] Behind the Song

"The song is notable for its haunting and memorable minor key melody and its lyric of remorse"

Technically, Jealous Guy is in a major key - G major, to be exact. Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but I think if the words "minor key" were removed from the above sentence it would become completely accurate and retain all of its meaning.

Notice how nobody has mentioned that John slept with another woman during his 'lost weekend'. How can people learn about and love the real John Lennon if such blatant facts are covered up?

That's partly what he's apologising about you dozy twonk. No-one's trying to cover it up, we all know it happened. It was actually Yoko's idea.--Crestville 16:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes but it's not mentioned in the article is it? Don't you think that people should know all of the facts?

Oh yeah, defenately. Off the top of my head, I don't know the facts well enough but if you think you can fit it in, have a crack. But we're not trying to cover up the facts, we just didn't think it was that essential.--Crestville 23:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Well I personally think the fact that Yoko requested that he go away with May Pang is essential. Although there is some controversy of whether she told him to become romantically involved with her. I'm really not sure and wouldn't feel confident editing the article without all the facts. Unless anyone can confirm that she did? Because it is thought that she had affairs during this time as well.

Yoko told May Pang that "it would be good for John if you looked after him". This mentioned in lots of books, as well as May Pang talking about it in numerous interviews. Shotly after Yoko´s comment, John made a pass at May in a lift, which would have never done if he hadn´t had Yoko´s blessing.

andreasegde 12:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

This has got to come out. It´s too "Chumley-Warner"

The song is notable for its haunting melody and its lyric of remorse. The lyric's theme is that the singer (???)is apologizing to his beloved (???)for having hurt her with his jealousy. Many have explained (???) the lyric as a reflection of the relationship between Lennon and Yoko Ono, but the subject matter has a wide appeal.

andreasegde 11:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Chumley Warner?--Crestville 12:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Harry Enfield. "Yes... Mr. Chumley-Warner, in the fut-chah (future) we will all be sitting, by plutonium fires with two-and-a-half children..." (Said in a very plummy accent.) andreasegde 00:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lyric copyright infringement

Hi,

I have removed the lyrics added to this page. Although still officially unreleased 'Child of Nature' has been copyrighted (and will remain so until 2050). Without permission from the copyright holder it is an infringement of these rights to publish the lyrics in any form.

Please do not add complete reproductions of lyrical material that are still in copyright. As interesting as they are to read it is not permissible. The only way to deviate this is to add a link to another page where the lyrics have been reproduced. Although the link page will also be a breach of the copyright it will at least be someone else who is infringing this and not Wikipedia.

Thanks,

Pepperstool 10:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)