Talk:JD Samson

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Contents 1 Speedy Deletion 2 Coming out 3 the looking-like-a-man thing 4 Men 5 Transgender reference

[edit] Speedy Deletion

• dont speedily delete this shit its all true i was there - unsigned comment
• ME TOO GOD YOU PEOPLE AND UR SPEEDY DELETION MAYBE DO SOME RESEARCH FIRST HM

http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/bios1/sams1.jpg that's even a photo from the scandal FRONT PAGE HEADLINE - unsigned comment

[edit] Coming out

I have known JD since childhood, and I can tell you that she did not come out publicly until she was a senior in high school, when she was at least 16. -- Mwalcoff 22:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

If you can show us a reference for this, please add it to the article. Dondiasco 11:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the looking-like-a-man thing

• well, it seems i've found the white elephant that nobody is willing to talk about. twice now i've added to samson's entry mentioning how she seems to actively pursue looking like a man. twice my comments have been deleted. neither time were they replaced with anything to enlighten the entry. so... let's just say it. the chick is trying to look like a dude. does ANYONE have ANYTHING informative on this subject that they could add to the entry? (beware, however... somebody out there doesn't want us to know)

Seriously, I came here to find out if she's male or female, and it says she's transgender and was born female but then goes on to refer to her with feminine pronouns. It's kind of important to talk about this person's gender in zir (I don't know what term to use) article since it appears to be kind of a big deal to them, their fans, etc ... 207.172.186.128 (talk) 18:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

A transgendered person is someone who assumes a different gender identity. Biologically, the person remains male or female. As far as JD is concerned, she dresses like a man, has a man's haircut and doesn't shave her facial hair. But, unlike "transmen," JD does not call herself a man and does not asked to be addressed as such. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

• It's not that she's trying to pursue looking like a man. She is a butch lesbian, and has naturally dark hair. A large number women have visible facial hair - don't assume that it's drawn or stuck on.

On a different note, I have some quite clear photos of her from a live le tigre gig. How would I go about attaching them to the article? I took the photos myself - does this mean that it's fine by copyright restrictions? 194.82.121.38 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The looking-like-a-dude thing should be mentioned in the article. This was exactly the information I was looking for, and I had to check this talk-page to get the confirmation. --Non-reg.

I added that her stage persona is androgynous. I think that is a non-judgemental discription of her appearance. (Much like Ziggy Stardust was discribed as androgynous.) I also added a 2nd photo which reinforces this assertion. --72.202.150.92 05:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. I'm not sure if the 2nd photo constitutes fair use, but it definately illustrates the point better than the first image. I'll look into it. Dondiasco 11:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Some Wikipedia martinet is likely to come along and remove that, unless you give some fair-use justification on the image's page, but I guess you can wait until there's notification. Wwwhatsup 21:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, it looks like the image has been up for over a year, and is currently used in 3 other articles, so I think it could be ok. Well give it time though. I'm going to have a go at formatting the page to make more sense and look better - references placed properly and things soon, so I'll try and incorporate the image in that too. Dondiasco 01:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Men

There should be some mention of her new collab with Johanna? Wwwhatsup 19:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, I haven't heard about it, but if you could get a reference about it, the please add it to the article. I'd be interested in finding out more about it. Thanks in advance. Dondiasco 10:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transgender reference

Is JD Samson transgendered? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.119.246 (talk) 17:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)