User talk:JCDenton2052
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[edit] BRD
Have you seen WP:BRD or WP:EW yet? Typically speaking, it is ok to make bold edits. However, if you get reverted by another editor, in good faith, it is never appropriate to re-insert the controversial new material. If you want the new content to go in the article, you need to go to the talk page, make a proposal for your changes aruging why you think they are beneficial and in line with policy, and see if there is community support (consensus) for your proposal. Twice you have re-added material that I have reverted in separate articles. And in my opinion, these edits seem to be made in (put bluntly) ignorance of wikipedia guidelines (which is fine in and of itself. Everyone is new, and everyone can learn from others. however, when you edit war to add material that goes against guidelines, I have to try to communicate the problematic nature of these edits, hopefully in a kind and polite manner). Have you read WP:CAT or WP:ALSO. For Jonathan Archer, categories are not like myspace interests. We don't add them indiscriminately to articles. Categories are there to pull out the most basic and important aspects of articles. For people, they are there to highlight why the individual is notable. For fictional characters, they are there to associate them with the most important and notable aspects of those characters. If the article does not mention a single word about Archer being a space pirate, it has no business being a category. What's worse is it seems you are supporting this claim based on a single episode. How many episodes of enterprise were there? 98? so something that represents only 1% of the character is not notable enough to work as a category here on wikipedia. If you were to describe Archer in 3 sentences, would "space pirate" come up in that description?
As to the see also section, links that are already included in the article, and links which actually redirects are usually to be avoided. Since misogyny is mentioned in the first sentence of the misandry article, it seems like it is prevalent enough in the article to not be needed in the see also section. Violence against men redirects to violence. Since someone looking for information on "violence against men" would be redirected there, the link is of little help for them. Would you consider adding simply the violence link to the see also section? probably not because it doesn't seem that related to the topic of misandry.
I hope this explains why I have reverted some of your changes (twice now). I don't mean to be too harsh, but I to get across the point that the best way to get disputed new content into articles is to initiate discussions on talk pages and avoid edit warring. On top of that, make sure your edits are within basic wikipedia guidelines. I honestly hope this helps, and if you have any questions about any of this, or wikipedia in general, I'd be glad to try and help.-Andrew c [talk] 15:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- I apologize for not noticing that 2 months ago you proposed adding the space pirates category on Archer's talk page. Going to talk first is commendable, and we do have a silent consensus sort of view of things. However, now that there is at least one party who disputes the category, it should remain off until we can discuss things a little further.-Andrew c [talk] 15:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the links. That was some informative reading. I think I now have a better understanding of when to add a page to a category.
- I was just trying to make the Misandry and Misogyny articles more parallel. I assumed that since Violence against women had a link to Violence against men that redirected to Violence, that was the normal practice. I have a couple of questions: Since Misogyny mentions misandry in the lead, should it be removed from the See Also? Misandry has a link to Female Chauvinism and Misogyny has a link to Chauvinism. Should that be changed to Male Chauvinism or should they both just be Chauvinism? Otherwise, I think the See Also sections look good now. What do you think? Thanks. JCDenton2052 (talk) 18:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
