User talk:Jayson Virissimo

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Hi! Welcome to Wikipedia! Just noticed you went to a number of Adventist schools and was wondering whether you might be interested in becoming involved in the new Seventh-day Adventist Church WikiProject. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask on my talk page. MyNameIsNotBob July 6, 2005 02:48 (UTC)

Contents 1 A not so quick response to a quick question 2 Re Up 3 Team Oyama 4 Team Oyama

[edit] A not so quick response to a quick question

Well, as I see it, there is no need for us in this advanced society to kill animals for nutrition, since most people can live off a non-meat diet without any adverse health effects (and some benefits, such as reduced rates of cancer and such). Basically, my main ethical code is "an if it harm none, do as thou wilt", which is known as the wiccan rede (although I am not wiccan, I just like the idea). Since we do not need to harm animals we shouldn't, it's gratutious violence for no real purpose. Of course, I am actually quite critical of civilization though (including intensive agriculture, which is the only way vegetarianism is really feasible for humans) so I am not inherently opposed to the idea of eating meat, but I am opposed to it under our current circumstances. I hold no false ideals about human consumption of meat, as a student of anthropology, I do know that for many societies it is a necessary source for protein. Furthermore, I believe that when we allow ourselves to exploit non-human animals, it is only a short step before we start exploiting other humans. I think the band Conflict say it well in their song "This is the ALF" (ironically, my username is taken from the name of the album the song appear on). "Human freedom, animal rights. It's one struggle, one fight. When animal abuse is stopped then human abuse will soon stop also, an attitude of mind. 'An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind'. Start by protecting the weak, the defenceless, animals, the sick, the disabled. Compassion and emotion are our most important safety values. If we lose them, then 'we lose' the vitality of life itself." Also, on a more specific note, the one regarding moral equality between humans and great apes has special significance, because since I study anthropology, I have a fairly advanced understanding of non-human primates (well, more advanced than the average person, I'm no expert though), which leads me to be absolutely appalled with the treatment of these creatures. Great apes are very intelligent and are much more like us than most people want to admit (or perhaps, we are more like them than we want to admit)--there is less than a 1% difference between the DNA of us and chimps (in fact, some scientists think chimpanzees should be reclassified in the genus Homo, which would make them humans), gorillas and chimps seem to show the ability to communicate with sign language, and also seem aware of their own existence. Many people are intimidated by these facts, because we want to think of ourselves as unique and seperate from the natural world (I personally attribute a lot of this to western religion) and get very upset when people show that these animals are like us (or more correctly as I've already stated, that we are like them). If you want an example, look at the talk page for ape, some people get really upset when we add in that humans are apes, which is a scientific fact. They just can't handle the knowledge. It's called anthropocentrism and is a big problem in my opinion. Anyways, sorry for taking up so much space and time, but it is a complex issue. I am happy to further discuss this or anything else on my userpage if you want. BTW, thanks for asking! The Ungovernable Force 05:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Up

Hey Jayson... Timing is unbelievable. I just pulled together some spec information, etc., on my Ruger over 4th weekend. Buddy went to the range for the first time just last night, and as we were talking about it, I put "get that GP-100 page started on Wikipedia" on my weekend todo list. I see that you created this "bare bones" page just this past Wednesday. I'm going to photo mine, and post that image (unless you've got one sitting around) - Thaimoss

[edit] Team Oyama

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