Talk:Jay Rosen

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This article was nominated for deletion on 10 April 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

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[edit] Proposed deletion

My understanding of WP:Bio-notability is that "academics, economists, professors, authors, editors, journalists" - i.e., the category of Mr. Rosen - meets standards of notability only if they have either (a) been the subject of significant secondary source research, (b) have made a *significant* and influential contribution to their field or (c) have originated a significant new concept. Mr. Rosen fails all these standards. The very fact that his bio here is padded with such trivia as the color of his Mac book underscores, I think, his essential nonentity. In addition, WP:NOTABILITY(academics) specifies that a proposed article subject must be significant, well-known, or uniquely honored by his or her peers. Mr. Rosen isn't. He's like about 10,000 other professors. Why waste the bandwidth on this one and not the 10,000 others? 71.9.8.150 (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

He's ridiculously popular AND has made significant contributions in the world of journalistic integrity. I contest this prod. --Liface (talk) 15:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Popularity on campus is not a measure of notability, per the policies cited above. As for "significant" contributions, a brief search of the citation index doesn't support such a claim, and other than primary sources (ie, publications BY Mr. Rosen, rather than ABOUT him) I'm unable to find any noteworthy or unique contribution. The world is full of decent, hardworking professors and professionals in many fields. That doesn't make them notable. 71.9.8.150 (talk) 21:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I have begun the (ridiculously and needlessly complex) deletion discussion process, but someone with an account will have to fire the first rock. For the moment, I would appreciate the inclusion of my comments here, but you can achieve the same result with any Google search, which will reveal that Mr. Rosen's presence in his field is limited almost exclusively to his self-publications, and that he is certainly no more "notable" than any of literally thousands of other professors across the nation, to say nothing of internationally. 71.9.8.150 (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)