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[edit] Jewish Encyclopedia

If you are coming to tell me i violated copyright laws concerning Jewishencyclopedia.com then please read what Jewishencyclopedia.com says it says the following "This website contains the complete contents of the 12-volume Jewish Encyclopedia, which was originally published between 1901-1906. The Jewish Encyclopedia, which recently became part of the public domain, contains over 15,000 articles and illustrations. This online version contains the unedited contents of the original encyclopedia. Since the original work was completed almost 100 years ago, it does not cover a significant portion of modern Jewish History (e.g., the creation of Israel, the Holocaust, etc.). However, it does contain an incredible amount of information that is remarkably relevant today."

[edit] sup

hey Maurice this is my wiki account btw its Jaime —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnc8651 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 11 March 2007

[edit] NEW MESSAGE

A message is awaiting! —Preceding unsigned comment added by The WikiWhippet (talk • contribs) 06:56, 15 April 2007

[edit] In response to "User box creator with template"

Thanks. I appreciate the tip. :) --Digiku 00:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit to Abraham Lincoln

Um, what was this about? Normally I'd warn you for vandalism, but you seem to be an otherwise sound user. Care to explain yourself? Picaroon!

[edit] Editing Wikipedia:Revert-only sandbox

[edit] Warning

This is a warning! Stop vandalizing or else the F.B.I. and the LAPD will get you. WARNING. Do NOT touch my user or talk page and stop vandalizing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe I wasn't clear. This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing.

[edit] Userpage...

hey. I was just on my watchlist, and it said that you edited something on my userpage. I was jsut wondering what you edited, cause i couldnt find anything different. Thanks! ~User: Sophiakorichi

ahhh, got it. what userbox was it? out of curiousoty, how did you come across my userpage? (oh, probably by just looking at the catagory that userbox put me in...?) ~SK

[edit] VOTE!

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[edit] oy ****er

hey man its jaime, wat u been up 2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.205.112.130 (talk • contribs) 10:36, 7 August 2007

[edit] Note to self

Rastafarianism, Mormonism, Raelism, Chrislam, Manichaeism, Mandaeism, Yezidi, Donmeh, Azali, Frankism, Samaritanism, Black Hebrew Israelites, Makuya, Seicho-No-Ie, Din-i-Ilahi, Sky Kingdom, Mama Tata, Tenrikyo, Bwiti, Santo Daime, Modekngei, Vale do Amanhecer, União do Vegetal, Nuwaubianism

[edit] Note for self 2

Samson, Moses, Ezra, Joseph (Hebrew Bible), List of converts to Judaism, List of converts to Islam, List of converts to Christianity

[edit] Tools

edit count rank edit count Pock Bot number of articles created by users note for the number of articles created by user list it is accurate as of 30 hours ago at the least and you appear on the list if you have created at least 5 articles


[edit] Userboxes

Are you an expert on userboxes? If you are, can you help me? I'm hopeless in the department of userboxes. Basketball110 15:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Input with Saudi Arabian Jewish history

Hi Java, hope all goes well. Maybe you can help improve the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia article. It links to smaller articles about Jewish tribes in the areas of present-day Saudi Arabia, such as Banu Awf, Banu Harith, Banu Jusham, Banu Najjar, Banu Sa'ida, Banu Shutayba and they all cited sources. Now User:Bless sins is requesting "sources" for the same information about the tribes in the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia article, as well as making other requests for sources and whatnot. (If you like, and have a minute or two, see the discussions that have been taking place at Category talk:Jewish Saudi Arabian history.) Please help out in the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia article. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 14:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Neo-Pagan texts

I have nominated Category:Neo-Pagan texts (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 08:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Samson GA candidacy

As you have been a primary editor and the nominator of Samson, I thought I would drop you a message informing you that the article has been placed on hold, and notes have been left on the talk page. Please make some of the requested edits. The article will be reviewed again shortly. Thank you for all of your hard work. -- PEPSI2786talk 13:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] First Edit

Happy First Edit Day, Java7837, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!
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[edit] Review:Aaron

Hi, Unfortunately the article has some problems. Most of the sources are primary. The primary sources are good for clarification but there should be some reliable sources for verification. Also there isn't enough information about Aaron in Islamic sources. You can use this to complete it. I would write a complete review if I had time. But I advise you to renominate it after solving these problems. God bless you.--Seyyed(t-c) 10:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Idea for Talmud articles

Hi Java7837: I am reposting the following request from User Sh76us (talk · contribs) on my user talk page for wider notification:

I was thinking of trying to stimulate development of a series of articles on Gemara concepts and doctrines, maybe to help children or newcomers to Gemara with explanations of some fundamental concepts that recur throughout the Gemara. Some examples might be articles on Yiush, Chazakah, Ta'aninun (as in "Ta'aninun L'Yoresh"), Eidim Zomemin (forgive my awful transliterations), Migu, etc., etc. Maybe we could even create a category or subcategory for it. I created Breira in this vein. As I don't have the experience or expertise in Wikipedia to know what to do to best develop this idea, I figured I'd come to you for your opinions on: (1) whether it's a good idea; and (2) How to best go about implementing it. Thanks Sh76us (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Centralized discussion at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Idea for Talmud articles. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 03:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This is your life?

Please! Don't rely so heavily on wikipedia to teach you about Judaism. There is valuable info here, but it's not it all! Go to a shiur! Chesdovi (talk) 20:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Updating the barnstar template

Hi Java: I have now put the basic original {{Jewishbarnstar}} template you created into Wikipedia:Barnstars/Category and it now joins the list of all Wikipedia:Barnstars. However, to keep in line with the word formatting of all the other barnstars I had to use your old one to start a new {{The Jewish Barnstar}} template. I gave you full credit, as did User:Yahel Guhan when he had placed it into Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism. Please make sure the older template is no longer used. Thanks, IZAK (talk)

  • Very important: From now on, please only use the template this way to grant the Jewish barnstar: {{subst:The Jewish Barnstar|message ~~~~}} (the "subst:" is crucial). Thanks a lot! IZAK (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:SOTD nav

A template you created, Template:SOTD nav, has been marked for deletion as a deprecated and orphaned template. If, after 14 days, there has been no objection, the template will be deleted. If you wish to object to its deletion, please list your objection here and feel free to remove the {{deprecated}} tag from the template. If you feel the deletion is appropriate, no further action is necessary. Thanks for your attention. Bryan Derksen (talk) 06:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problematic new Christian/Jewish template

Hi Java: Please see the discussions at Template talk:Books of the Bible concerning the new troubled and troubling {{Books of the Bible}} template. Your attention to this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 05:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AGF

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. Divamia (talk) 05:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for helping with the vandalism problem. I'm open to suggestions, if you have any. Right now the options are to 1) survive edit warring, 2) give up and allow the vandalism to stick, or 3) create waste of space articles for people like Abraham the Monk who ARE notable, but only because they converted. Is there a fourth option? I don't feel like edit warring, I don't have time to research a book's worth of bio information right now, and I don't think it's good stewardship of Wiki server space to create 30 bio pages for people who are only notable BECAUSE of their conversion to Judaism when 1 subsection of a page is sufficient.Tim (talk) 10:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Only problem is that some of these people are only documented in books. I'd like to minimize the amount of money we'll have to shelve out on research.Tim (talk) 14:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

PS -- I also noticed the anti-Jewish slant. He/She is requiring each person have separate articles, and trying to delete those articles at the same time.Tim (talk) 14:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes. People who apply precedents used at all other articles to Jewish-related articles must be anti-Jewish. Divamia (talk) 15:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

J, after reading through all of the notability guidelines, the clergy who convert definitely merit an article on that basis alone. Although I personally prefer one line to an article, Wikipedia seems to have lower standards than I would for brevity -- probably because they are a computer based resource and my instincts are still driven by old time "book" size contraints. Accordingly, I'll start adding the articles. I've saved a link to the older edit of the page so I won't lose those names. Also, I'll help you keep the page current so that other people will know which names to research. The next question is, how can we get some help? I don't have all of these books, and although I may actually get them, I don't have the time or the money to buy and read them all right now. But I'm certainly willing to play a part.Tim (talk) 15:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Convert and Baal Teshuvah Biography Project -- how's that?Tim (talk) 15:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I've never set up a project before -- but I'll catch up with you Sunday. Time to hit the road. The sun is chasing.Tim (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Asher Wade

The article's length meets the minimum criteria, but I still think it's a bit short for DYK. Also, there's only one in-line citation in the article. Could you possibly expand the article and use more in-line citations? Nishkid64 (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...I guess it's fine for DYK. I would accept it for DYK, but I'm not sure what others may think. However, I think the article's expired now, so it can't be featured on DYK. Nishkid64 (talk) 03:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Maimonides orthodox?

I'm really not sure why you put the Rambam in the Sephardi Orthodox rabbis category. Orthodoxy as a movement did not exist before the 19th century, and I can imagine that many people thought of him as rather unorthodox in his day! JFW | T@lk 18:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you urgently clarify why you are separating ALL rabbis, even before the 19th century, into Orthodox categories. JFW | T@lk 18:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
In response to your message on my talkpage: the term "Orthodox" was not used before the 19th century. Before that time, it was just "Judaism" because no other term was applied to it. There was Karaism, and Sadduceism, and other branches that left the mainstream - but they did not apply the term "Orthodox" to the mainsteam either. Incidentally, Hirsch doesn't seem to have had problems with the term "Orthodox", so I cannot see why you think the term was purely derogatory.
My point about Maimonides is that in his day, many regarded him as deviating from the mainstream. Why else would they have burnt copies of his work?
I think your use of "Orthodox" for pre-19th century rabbis is a form of POV. I also think we need to discuss on WT:JEW whether you should continue categorising pre-19th century rabbis as "Orthodox". JFW | T@lk 09:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree with JFW, as requested below, Java7837 please join the unfolding discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Orthodox rabbis. This is very important. Thanks a lot. IZAK (talk) 10:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New category additions on Breslov rabbi pages

Hi, I saw your category additions to Michel Dorfman and Eliyahu Chaim Rosen and was wondering why they're both not under "Hasidic rabbis in Israel"? Rosen was a teacher and role model who certainly fits this category description, which you added him to, but Dorfman, an honorary rosh yeshiva (more like an administrator) for the Breslov yeshiva in Jerusalem, is known as the quintessential Breslover chassid. I don't think he belongs in a catch-all category like "Israeli Orthodox rabbis." Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick editing work. But what's this new category, "Russian Orthodox rabbis"? Sounds like an oxymoron. And why is Michel Dorfman the only name in the category? He wasn't a rabbi in Russia. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
A Russian rabbi can mean a rabbi in russia or rabbi who's ancestors were from Russia--Java7837 (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, but Dorfman wasn't a rabbi — he was a shochet and a bookbinder. He was an honorary rosh yeshiva (read: administrator). He is not notable enough to have a category just for him! Yoninah (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussions about your rabbis categorizations

Hi Java: Please join the discussions about your new "Orthodox rabbis" categorizations at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Orthodox rabbis so that you can explain your moves and discuss it with others who have some concerns about it. Thanks a lot! Shabbat Shalom! IZAK (talk) 10:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] orthodox

You are adding the category Orthodox to people who eat non-kosher and do not keep the Sabbath. Just because someone is respectful of the tradition does not make them Orthodox, nor do people who grew up orthodox and then become famous necessarily still keep Kosher and sabbath. I do not want to discuss this on the individual pages of the people or be a witch hunt of observance, but many of the people that you added Orthodox to their bios are not observant at all. --Jayrav (talk) 04:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Agnon was Orthodox until age 25 and then stopped for a few years and returned to his original practice by 32. He was only non-observant between 1913-1920. Not exactly a BT, he was only non-religious between schooling and marriage. He retained his Orthodox and Rabbinic connections throughout. The article had originally, mistakenly placed his return in the 1950's, but he was raised orthodox and married orthodox by 1920. --Jayrav16:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

There are several known gedolim who sowed wild oats in their youth during the difficult years of WWI and Turkish Palestine, but that does not make them BT's.--Jayrav (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish Renewal

The name of the movement is "Jewish Renewal" - there is no such thing as "american renewal" - Jewish in the name of the movement is not an adj like Jewish reform or Jewish orthodox. The very name of the movement is "Jewish renewal". It would be nice if you switched those back. --Jayrav (talk) 04:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of American Jewish Renewal rabbis

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[edit] Orthodox rabbis

Hi Java: I see that the issue of how to create, name and organize rabbis and Orthodox rabbis articles is causing friction. Perhaps this can be discussed at greater length if you are able to contact me so that we can discuss this at greater length. Thanks, and Shavua Tov. Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 04:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Java7837/israel

I fixed up some errant coding in the border-c field. It should mesh well now. Octane [improve me] 07.03.08 0750 (UTC)

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