Talk:Jasper Tudor

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Jasper Tudor is more commonly referred to as Earl of Pembroke, probably because he didn't receive the dukedom until late in life and well after the major accomplishments of his life. So I wonder if would be better to list him that way? -- Loren

For what it's worth, I'd rather see him back at Jasper Tudor, where he started. There's no rule that says peerages have to be included in an article's title, not if the person is better known just by their name. Deb 11:55 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I've moved him back to plain old Jasper Tudor, simply because there were so many links to him by this name, and none at all under "Jasper Tudor, Duke of Bedford". Deb 19:09 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Jasper Tudor is just about never referred to as "Jasper Tudor, Ist Duke of Bedford." As stated above, if a title has to be included than "Earl of Pembroke" is the usual choice, although "Jasper Tudor" would be preferable, more conventional, and in line with wikipedia's naming policy of using the most familiar name. Would there be any strong objections to renaming the article accordingly? Enaidmawr 19:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

In terms of the Bosworth material here, I've always heard that it was the Earl of Oxford who was responsible for the Lancastrian victory there. Does anyone else have any idea? john k 18:49, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)