Talk:Jason Ouwendyk

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It may be of interest to know that "the word on the street" is that Jason has left the movement and the NA appears to have disbanded.

[edit] Sources?

Does anyone have a source that could confirm if Ouwendyk has left the movement and that the Northern Alliance has been disbanded?


So far, I have not seen any concrete evidence on the internet (other than the site going down). A friend at a bar in London gave me the info. She also told me that Ouwendyk recently started going to church. I suppose you could e-mail the group and ask (if they still have an e-mail address).

I'll see what I can dig up.

Well, if he did leave the far right, then I have to wonder why he was pictured at a recent protest alongside Melissa Guille and Paul Fromm. I think this rumour is just that, with nothing to back it up. AnnieHall 20:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Death

Ouwendyk has been declared dead before and that turned out to be erroneous. Is there anything to verify this claim? AnnieHall 05:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

There are several obits in local papers.[1][2][3] None list his cause of death. -Will Beback 20:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, but last time I checked he was living in London and I've seen pictures of him alive and healthy taken last week. I'll take a look at the obituaries though. AnnieHall 21:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Dunno, the people on Stormfront seem to think it's him but, then again, you'd think the London Free Press would have said something if it was. Perhaps someone should call Randy Richmond at the LFP to confirm it? Homey 23:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I emailed Richmond last night. Hopefully we'll find out for certain one way or the other. AnnieHall 18:32, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
This thread on Stormtfront mentions suicide.[4] Though unverified, that'd explain why the obits don't mention a cause of death. -Will Beback 03:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
He was alive the weekend of June 24-25. That is if the information posted online by others who were with him is accurate. He was standing only five feet away from Melissa Guille in one of the photos I saw that was taken sometime between June 24 and June 25. A kid named Tyler mentions in the obit that he had just met him that weekend, posting the note of condolence on June 27. Photographic evidence backs this up as well. If Ouwendyk died June 19 then something seems a little bit fishy to me. AnnieHall 18:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Certainly bears further investigation. Homey 18:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Ever see the film Weekend at Bernie's?Homey 18:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

The discussion has been deleted from Stormfront. Homey 01:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps he's a zombie? Seriously though, I'm not sure what kind of game that they're playing here. Was the Stormfront discussion removed because the story was false or because the person who originally posted it had his account hacked. And while the SF discussion has been removed the obituary remains. Far too many questions remain on this one AnnieHall 01:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks to be pretty definately him IMO. Looks to be postings from Tara D. a well known Montreal bonehead and most of the postings have 88 and stuff at the end.[5] --Mista-X 11:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Tara doesn't post on Stormcunt.It's well known that Stormfront is Pro-IRA and Anti Irish, ran by Don Black and John Joy Tree, the infamous British Armchair Nazi.. Those pics weren't taken on the 24-25 either. I suggest you do your homework. 88

--Mista-X 14:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps you should. Tara's comment wasn't on Stormfront, it was on the Osprey obit page. Homey 22:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
This whole thing is a little strange. I found that his obit was in at least three newspapers (search for Ouwendyk ): [6]. There is a thread about him on the Aryan Nations forum: [7]. His family tree: [8].
I emailed Randy Richmond. Nothing yet. I'm still not convinced that Ouwendyk is dead. I find it strange that Paul Fromm hasn't mentioned anything if Ouwendyk has ceased to walk amongst the living. AnnieHall 08:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

What I also found, which is unusual, is another Jason Ouwendyk in Hamilton (again, you'll have to search for his name in the document): [9].203.115.1.135 23:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry "AnnieHall" I'm not Nate. I do know him quite well and surely he would have signed his name to his comment. Seems to me, all you do track local National Socialists, either you're Dick Warman, or just a bird who got beat up 10 years ago by some Chelsea and are on a warpath. Another note: Why are you all so concerned if Jason is dead, unless you're that useless jewlover Warman who won't be able to get anymore money out of guy who had none.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.158.78.44 (talk • contribs)
No, but close. Beaten and almost raped by two strong, brave, Aryan warriors a couple of years back. Very corrageous of them I have to say to attack someone who's a shade over 5 feet. A true credit to their superior race. Well if you're not Nathan my only other guess is that you're Chris in London or even Ciaran out in B.C., though I'm still inclined to think you're Nate. Doesn't really matter in the end. Reasons why I'm "concerned" is that this is an ecyclopedia. Accuracy is important, though given your attitude's towards holocaust research I can understand that facts would be less important. I'm done with you now. AnnieHall 16:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Care to give names of these so called women beaters? Nate I am not,Chris I am not, Ciaran I am not either. Who I am isn't important. Although I'm fairly convinced you're Warman.Anyhow, we have got ourselves way off topic. I do know for a fact that those Picture you are referring to were not from the 24/25 of June.
The discussion has been removed from Stormfront entirely and another discussion on a nother neo-nazi board has been largely blanked. I suspect the obit wasn't for the same Ouwendyk, that some of the London Ouwendyk's friends saw the obit and assumed, much as we did, that it was resulting in them appending their regrets. Homey 19:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
That's been my take on it. Like I said before though this isn't the first time Ouwendyk has been declared dead so I'm still a bit suspicious of the reasons. AnnieHall 21:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Alex Kulbashian, James Scott Richardson, Tomasz Winnicki, Raphael Bergmann Glenn Bahrin addition to Jason Ouwendyk and the Northern Alliance are articles that I created. I’ve contributes to articles on Marc Lemire and Melissa Guille. There are a few non-racist articles too. In reality I haven't given Ouwendyk a second thought until the stories of his untimely demise began to circulate. But perhaps I should take your advise and knock off a few more articles on racists in Canada. There are a few individuals and groups here in Ontario and Quebec that should be included. You’re also right to say that we’ve strayed away from the discussion at hand. Since you claim to know otherwise maybe you’ll like to to let us all know when the photos were taken and if Mr. Ouwendyk is among the living still? AnnieHall 21:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


My honest opinion of weather Jay is deceased is that he is, in fact not among us. I have tried to contact people who knew him, but to no avail. Also, AnnieHall, I'm going to correct some your info on Glenn Bahr and his current Hate Crimes charges.:: Glad to see we're back on topic here.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.63.62.95 (talk • contribs)

He's alive. 72.60.227.118 07:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

And how do you know?

He was seen by antifasctists at Paul Fromm's house on Aug. 19, 2006. --Mista-X 07:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC) [10]