Talk:Japan Ground Self-Defense Force

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Contents 1 Main battle rifle 2 Euphemism 3 Project Assessments 4 Graphic of the Army Structure 5 A few tidbits I'd like to add 6 画像提供 7 Lineage 8 Origin of Japanese aircraft

[edit] Main battle rifle

What is the main battle rifle of the japanese army. There should be an equipment section in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.13.212 (talk • contribs)

I believe it is the Type 89. Prior to this it was the Type 64. -Loren 09:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Euphemism

I think the denomination "Japan Ground Self Defense Force" is "euphemistic" since Japans forces have been engaged in conflicts not regarding Japan's national security such as Gulf War and the last 2003 war in Iraq therefore not acting as a "Self-defense force". Just an observation. ~ ~ ~ ~ ZealotKommunizma

And a perfectly respectable political opinion. Nevertheless, this is the official name of the force. Of course, on the other hand, there are those who believe that taking part in the War on Terror anywhere in the world is essential for the national security of all. LordAmeth 09:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

... if a rose were called by any other name ... Jimp 04:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The SDF have not ben engaged in any conflicts whatsover. Their presence in the Middle East is purely humanitarian, and no shots have been fired by the SDF, or at the SDF. (70.156.58.192 (talk) 02:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC))

Bah hah hah, what a crock. They have too been shot at and they did shoot back.--Tomtom9041 (talk) 02:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project Assessments

Not as long or detailed as article on Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force; these two could be, perhaps should be, rendered in parallel. No need for one to be shorter and less detailed than the other. Intro in particular needs some work. LordAmeth 09:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic of the Army Structure

I'm currently working on a project to create graphics of the structure of the most important Armies. i.e. France. I want to make also a graphic of the structure of the Japanese Ground Self-Defence Force, but the information at this point is not sufficient, as there is no information what units compose the single divisions and brigades. Does anyone have this information- down to the Battalion and Company levels? Thanks noclador

• You can check http://www.mod.go.jp/gsdf/ for more information. It's all, however, in Japanese. 70.68.55.148 07:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

In Japanese it is of no use to me. If a Japanese speaker could work trough the site and translate the relevant information- that would help! :-) Noclador 15:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion is to leave a message in the Japanese Wikipedia site. My Japanese is of little use since I couldn't understand most kanji. Darn it! 70.68.55.148 17:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I did that just now :-) Noclador 04:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Good news! You can check this page out! http://www.mod.go.jp/e/index_.htm 70.68.55.148 01:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A few tidbits I'd like to add

I downloaded a video from the JGSDF's website that documents their overseas involvement with Humanitarian Assistance:

Cambodia 1992~1993 Mozambique 1993~1995 Golan　Heights 1998~Present East Timor 2002~2004 Rwanda 1994 Honduras 1998 Indonesia 2005 Pakistan 2005 Iraq 2004~Present

Also for training, the JGSDF is trained by the US military, and annually comes to Ft. Lewis, Washington and does joint exercises on the Yakima training ground (confirmed from the Ft. Lewis website). They also do some "hush-hush" stuff in Hawaii (unconfirmed, from a friend of mine). From the dozens of YouTube videos I've watched, for Urban training they usually just had a laser pointer attached to the Type 89 rifles, and pointed the laser at a pop-up target. Recently, they contracted the airsoft company Tokyo Marui, Ltd. to manufacture an airsoft replica of the Type 89 (of which I'm a proud owner). 600 were purchased by the JGSDF, designated "89TAG-S", according to the Japanese airsoft magazine "Strike and Tactical", and are being implemented as training weapons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.18.208.179 (talk) 02:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC). (Sekiryu 20:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC))

As long as you have the proper citations from a reliable source, it should be fine. Any links to the video should also be to the original source. -Loren 20:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The only source for the 89TAG-S is a picture of the cover of the magazine--I'm trying to get a copy of it in the US so I can get more info. The video can be found at http://www.mod.go.jp/gsdf/html/kokusai/index.html (Sekiryu 13:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC))

Someone should make a tag that copyright is credited to the JSDF. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.161.192.114 (talk) 22:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

I concur. It'd be easier on all of us. Ominae (talk) 06:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 画像提供

この英語版の陸上自衛隊のページは写真がすくないのCategory:JGSDFを参考にして作成してもらいたいです —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yushimogaki (talk • contribs) 16:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC).

Attempted translation: "There are very few images on the English JGSDF article, more images may be found at Category:JGSDF." -Loren 16:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lineage

Do JGSDF units claim lineage from the Second World War units?--mrg3105mrg3105 23:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely not! --MChew (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

They don't cause the Allied Forces got rid of the Imperial military. Ominae (talk) 02:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of Japanese aircraft

I was surprised to find this is denoted as Japanese although all are licensed productions of US designs. It seems to me that origin starts from design, research and development stage and not just production.--mrg3105mrg3105 If you're not taking any flack, you're not over the target. 23:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)