Talk:Jaoji Hwanung of Baedal

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[edit] Sources

I noticed that two blogs are used as sources as of the date of my sign. I'm sure there's lots of books on the same topic in Korean. How about we pick a single book that deals with this subject and use that as a source instead of the blogs? Also, this one[1] seems to be a dead link now. Mumun 無文 20:55, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed changes

The following texts were removed by me earlier but were then reverted by someone else, so I put it here for discussion.

In the "Controversy" section: "If Chi-Woo had truly lost the 10-year war as the Chinese records say, then Chi-Woo would not have been venerated and made a War God of throughout Asia. If the Yellow Emperor had defeated Chi-Woo and won the war, then Korea would not exist as it did through history, and the Yellow Emperor would have been the War God that Chi-Woo was turned into."

I removed this part because it seems like some personal opinions, which is unsuitable for Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:No_original_research. Also this argument is logically flawed: losing a war doesn't necessarily mean that one couldn't have been deified as a war god, and similarly winning a war doesn't mean that one must have been deified as the war god; also, losing a war doesn't mean one's country must have been entirely conquered and stopped its existence. If you think this removed argument is correct, then I can also claim that since the Yellow Emperor is thought as a chief deity and ancestor of Chinese, if he had truly lost the war, he wouldn't have been made such a god and Chinese wouldn't have been existing at all. Took (talk) 09:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Well Now that I think of it, Chiyou actually did lose the war. After winning 70 battles, he lost the last one. How else could Baikal have fallen? The Hwandan Gogi comes in for that one... I'll go ahead and leave that one in. o.d.s.t. : feet first into hell (talk) 18:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Btw, I was thinking of deleting this article and merging it with Chi You. There are some kinks to work out with the Korean/Chinese interpretations and all, but I do think it should be done. Don't you think that the Chinese mythology articles are a mess? we need to clean it up... o.d.s.t. : feet first into hell (talk) 18:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies

Before his final showdown against the armies of Xiang Yu, Han Gaozu Liu Bang was said to have visited a shrine of Chi-Woo, who had been deified as a War God throughout East Asia for centuries. After his victory and establishment of the Han Empire, Liu Bang was said to have built a Chi-Woo shrine within the capital of Chang'an.

Why is the above excerpt a controversy? Hanfresco (talk) 12:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)