User talk:Janke/Archive 1

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OK, this is supposed to be a place to chat about what we do... Janke 10:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Forney and other steam

I think your edit on Matthias N. Forney today was the fasest edit from another user that I've gotten on any of the railroad-related articles that I've written. Way cool. I've linked the photo on the Forney page too. Thanks for uploading it.

Oh, and by the way, I've taken a look at a few of the other photo uploads that you mentioned in your note to me recently. Very nice. I've made a couple minor edits to grammar and links in the captions as well as adding whitespace where needed to flow around the photo. slambo June 29, 2005 15:32 (UTC)

[edit] Finland-Swedish

Nice to hear that you like my suggestions :) I'd, however, prefer to wait a couple of days for other comments as well because I'm not sure that it should be placed under "Ethnicity", which already seems to be a bit of a mess already. Perhaps it should be in the introduction.

/Mathias_Johansson | Talk

[edit] Flag of Finland

Hello! Thanks for your note. The flag of Finland I drew, however, used the colour blue as specified by the Finland Ministry of the Interior, so I may revert this.

Moreover, I (and others) tend to not include borders with flags for two reasons: (1) from a vexillogical perspective, borders are properly not part of a flag, and (2) I tend to not include them when one can more easily discern where the edges of a flag are or should be. You can denote where the white on the Finnish flag begins and ends through inferrence of the dimensions of the blue cross; the Flag of Japan, on the otherhand, is different because it is difficult to surmise where the white begins and ends. Thoughts? E Pluribus Anthony 17:29, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi there; thanks for your reply. As a designer, I'm well aware of the differences inherent with PMS and other colour-matching systems like RGB, CMYK, RSL, etc.; my point is that the colours represented should be official ones, not approximated ... irregardless of approximations when converting or viewing them. This can also apply to photographs, so your perception of what is the correct blue may be different from mine (though I do not challenge your belief that the blue in the picture is lighter than in the flag image). Without there being an agreed-upon standard for representing colours (and you nor I can say certainly if the specs provided are for print or screen), the official colour specifications should suffice or ones be used that can be found on or sampled from a Finnish government website depicting the flag. (This same rationale, by the way, was applied to the Flag of Canada, which uses a precise red, and was a collaboration between myself and another user.)
And while I may not be Finnish (which is not a ground for substantiation), you need only proceed to the submenu on the website I cited to view a diagram of the Finnish flag that is darker than your representation and similar to the one I drew. Moreover, I do not think it weird for the flag to not have a border, I think it cheapens it: since the Wikipedia background is off-white (a light-blue, I believe), I can resolve the flag edges. Preferably, borders (even light ones) should only be used when absolutely necessary (i.e., when you can't resolve the beginning or end of whites in other flags, as in the Japanese flag). Perhaps you need a new monitor or should adjust its Gamma? Thoughts? E Pluribus Anthony 21:32, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks again for your prompt reply. In response:

(1) Even with your review and exposure (and I do note your review of the website), the blue in your image is far lighter than specified on the government website and in the images I cited and created (and darker than in the photograph there). (2), (4) I think it far more important to use the specs provided--CMYK numbers et al.--and not rely merely on what looks right, as this is a matter of interpretation. (3) The presence of a border on so small an image, as for Lokomo, does nothing for it so its presence may be unnecessary. Moreover, the background is still off-white so a border does not add value.

So, I believe the best course of action is to use or devise a flag using the official colour specifications (as in the previous image I created) but to include a light grey border. Unless other input is forthcoming or a differing viewpoint from others, this is what I'll work on. Thoughts? E Pluribus Anthony 21:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

PS: PMS is generally for print but we cannot say certainly that this is applicable in this instance. E Pluribus Anthony 21:58, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes: perhaps we should be chatting. ;) I may 'cheat' a little, but the PMS colours noted should ultimately reign supreme (remember the online diagrams of the national and state flags on the government website...)
As for the border, we can agree to disagree: if the Wikipedia background were not so 'white,' I and others would prefer no borders even on white flags (since they are not properly part of the flag); visit the Flags of the World website and you will find few if any white and other flags with borders. There's still room for stiffies and not, however, and I don't consider myself the former. I'm not easy, though.  ;)
As for the Canadian flag, the red used is consistent with specifications and online instances. The Royal Military College flag is a photo and not the same (but this flag served as a template for the Canadian flag). Besides, the prior versions of the Canadian flag online were absolutely horrible renditions and it started to drive me nuts. Anyhow, thanks for your feedback. :) E Pluribus Anthony 22:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: Eisner Award

...but the page clearly states it's the Will Eisner award. Besides, Michael Eisner has next-to-nothing to do with comics, and there have to be several other notable peopel with the last name "Eisner" that it could be confused for as well. Placing such a note just seems...frivolous. Perhaps an Eisner disambiguation page is in order? (Wait...there already is one. Well, never mind, then.) --FuriousFreddy 01:41, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Finland

Hi!

I have seen that there has been some new Flags uploaded. I wonder if it should be so dark? I saw you were having a discussion on a user page about it. I think that it would be easier for others to following if the discussion was conducted on the talk page of the image: Image_talk:Finland flag large.png where I would be able to participate.

I also want to draw your attention to the fact that the current flag is of more than 3,000 bytes, which is ten times larger than one earlier version. This may be irrelevant at first thought, but as all Finland-stub pages use the flag, it may be a considerable amount of pages that unnecessarily increase the server load by all visitors :-)

All the best, --Fred-Chess 13:15, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I do not know if you have noticed, but I wrote a reply on my user page. --Fred-Chess 14:45, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Finland-Swedish map

Thank you for adding the very informative map of the distrubtion of Finland-Swedish to Swedish language. I've been wanting one of those for quite a while now. Would you be interested in making similar maps for Finnish, Danish and perhaps Norwegian if I can find good info on the distribution of their respective dialects?

Peter Isotalo 15:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

That was thoroughly unexpected! Thanks! Image:Smiley icon.png

Now, back to work getting additional accurate information in place on these articles... slambo 01:57, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Finland

Hey there! Thanks for pointing this out; my error regarding the borderless flag. Please update. Moreover, I've been trying to clean up this and that from my user and other pages, and it is my page ... so I'll part with whatever I can. Merci! E Pluribus Anthony 21:48, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Merci ... thanks for your attention to this! So many updates, so little time ... E Pluribus Anthony 22:19, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cartoon physics

No, no, no - the article isn't a spoof - it's an article about a spoof. Your three laws were very clever, but they aren't part of the ongoing culture (so to speak) of cartoon physics, so they don't belong in an encyclopedia article about the phenomenon. If you launch them into cyberspace elsewhere and they get widely taken up, then they might be part of it. But we also don't want it to degenerate into a long list of funny things that cartoons do, as the article is wont to do. - DavidWBrooks 16:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting vandalism

Re: [1]

No problem, always happy to help. This appears to be the same guy who was vandalising the article last night. I've put up a notice on the Admin's noticeboard, so hopefully more people will be keeping an eye out. -Loren 07:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] girl

Glad to hear everything got sorted out ok. So what do you think of the image? I like it, but to me she looks more like a young woman than a girl... Tasks you can do 21:18, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, for you (and only for you ;) I've changed my signature. Sam Spade 21:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Girl is the collaboration of the week! Please come grow this article... Mamawrites 03:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio message box

I think your idea about the warning box is great. (I'm an artist myself, sometimes involved in intellectual property issues in my work.) I have one question for you: You said: "The notice should have a distinguishing class/id so that experienced users can suppress it." Can you explain "class/id" or point to a WP reference page - I fear I'm still a bit of a "WP noobie"... ;-) --Janke | Talk 15:11:09, 2005-09-02 (UTC)

Sorry if my allusion was cryptic. We badly need a help page on using CSS in Wikipedia, but I'm afraid I don't have time to write one this morning. Bovlb 15:20:34, 2005-09-02 (UTC)

[edit] Babel template protection

I have protected the templates for the English language, which indeed suffer from repeated vandalism. I have also added a note to the Talk page of en-4 to avoid any problems with the parties involved in the discussion. Cheers, --Sn0wflake 21:26, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Help with deletion

Done. slambo 10:30, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] girl -- table

I wish I knew how to put the contents box in the table! I could unsquash the lefthand cell a bit... I'll try that, and then let me know what you think? Mamawrites 06:28, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Let me see if I can find instructions on how to put the contents box into the table. I'll do it as soon as I have finished the new section I'm editing now, on the girl in popular culture. (Perhaps with your background in animation, you can help internationalize the section more!) If I can't figure out how to put the contents box into the table, I will revert my changes to your original layout tomorrow, I promise. Mamawrites 06:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for that tip about __TOC__! That was exactly what I needed to put as an entry in the table I had been trying to create, with the TOC in column 1, one picture in column 2, and the second picture in column 3. Now I think it looks pretty good. Do you agree?
I'm going to try to find a good space for the picture of the girl in the racecar. I do think that the contrast between the paper dolls picture and the racecar picture is useful. Mamawrites 22:14, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] It was a pleasure to work with you this week!

An Award
For your contributions to the CotW focusing on Girl in September, 2005, I, Mamawrites, award you, Janke, this THANK YOU.

[edit] Re: Requests

Took a quick look, protected untitled.* and picture.* as noted in the discussion. Looks like I was a little late to the party on the anonymous user as the last edit from that user is timestamped before the last warning (although it was a bit amusing to see that one of the anon's edits was a spelling correction on one of the earlier warnings). I'm a little hesitant to put a block on anons because of the way many DSL and cable providers use DHCP to assign IP addresses, and there's been discussion on WP:AN about anon blocks also affecting legitimate users, especially users on AOL. If he pops up again with similar behavior you might get a faster response on WP:ANI. slambo 13:50, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Walt Disney

Yes, it was harsh, but it's starting to get on my nerves. It's mostly just because they go unnoticed. --Lyght 07:04, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: FH5+2

Thank you for your note. I am a real fan of those talented guys, especially of the banjo players Harper Goff and Dick Roberts. I added some more informations to their pages too. VegavoxIV 14:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Welcome

Thank you, Janke (somehow that seems redundant) for your gracious welcome. I do hope to maintain my citizenship as a Wikipedian for some time. I am a long time user of the site and felt compelled to contribute. Whether I was motivated by vanity or duty is neither hither nor thither (I promise that is the last time I write the phrase "hither nor thither". Crap. OK, starting NOW). As to my response to Cels message, I tend to forget that deadpan deliveries do not translate to text. Nevertheless, I thank you for your mediation in the matter. --OGRastamon 05:50, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy speedy

I'm patrolling Special:Recentchanges, so I may have stumbled across the page at the same time you did. Thanks for the note! Joyous (talk) 16:08, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Naming conventions

The naming convention actually states that where the name of something should be in title case (such as a museum name) then the article should be the same. This refers widespread to people, places, buildings, films, television programmes, etc etc etc. It's amazing how many people user lower case throughout though. -- Francs2000 21:25, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Best Finnish film

I am not questioning that the film is considered the best in Finland. The problem is finding a good citation. The one that was there linked to a user's review in IMDb. This is too low of a bar for a citation. If that were the criteria, anyone could add virtually any film to the list, and the article would be useless. I have no problem with a citataion in Finnish (although English would be better.) Other speakers of Finnish could verify the citation. Any reputable cite that says it was selected in a poll of critics, a poll of audience members, or set some sort of record for the equivalent of the Oscar in Finland would be acceptable. Sorry for the hassle. -- Samuel Wantman 22:01, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Good question. I go both ways about reverts. There are problems with both methods. If you just ask, you can be ignored, or perhaps the person only checks in now and then. That means I have to keep tabs with what is questionable. Reverting works very efficiently but is harsh. I suspect the best approach is a revert with a good explanation on a talk page, but that takes quite a bit of time. I've also noticed that after having a few of my own edits reverted, I take more time to look at the history and discussions of articles to find out what will fly. In a perfect world, I'd write a long explanation on talk pages for each revert. But lately, I don't have enough time to do that. -- Samuel Wantman 09:23, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

BTW, The citation still isn't quite right, so I'm going to ask you to fix it. It isn't enough to say it is "Considered the best Finnish film ever". It looks like the citation is some measure of box office (domestic?) If so, the article should say that it is "the highest grossing Finnish film in Finland" or whatever the measure is. It would be nice to have a citation that said "was picked by such-and-such group of Finnish film critics as the greatest Finnish film" and/or "was voted the greatest Finnish film by a poll of audience members in such-and-such publication", etc... The citation should match the prose. -- Samuel Wantman 09:36, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fuad Khan

Just wondering why you listed this for speedy deletion. It's a valid article (although somewhat short), he is a real person who serves as a minister in the ministry of health in Trinidad and Tobago. You gave no reason for why you listed for speedy deletion, and for the time being, I've removed the tag but will put it back in if you can give me a reason for why. bjelleklang 20:22, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I speedied it because it looked like this (garbled): [2] Someone else has fixed it, so it's OK now. Keep up the good work! --Janke | Talk 20:26, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the quick reply! Just had to check. bjelleklang 20:57, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] GTAW

Actually Janke, I'm just good at pretending to be a expert on welding. I'm just a college student who took a course on welding once, checked out a bunch of welding textbooks from the library, and started writing big long wikipedia articles. As for practical experience, I don't have too much. That said, I'd be happy to entertain any questions, and maybe give useful answers, but I can't promise anything :). --Spangineer (háblame) 03:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

OK, just so you know I'm not ignoring you, I'll answer your second question. I'm not sure about the first one for now (the joining of dissimilar materials isn't something I've studied extensively), but I'll try to get back to you on that. As for welding pure copper, according to my references, 200 amps should do the trick, assuming you're using a DCEN polarity. Joint design shouldn't matter too much. --Spangineer (háblame) 02:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tutorial system

I dont think that ones is actually non-notable enough for speedy, so I'm gonna suggest you take it to AfD. Cheers! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 02:27, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Saga of Shimizu

Same story on this one, it doesnt really fit in with the CSD criteria, so I think it will need to go to AfD. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 02:58, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually I did AfD this one, and the other one could probably go to. I don't think theyre notable, but they assert just enough notability to merit AfD, imo. Generally, with biographies for example, if the biography asserts notability, then it has to go to AfD. "Jimmy is awesome" is nn-bio, "Jimmy is the chess champion of New York" has to go to AfD. However, theres not so much of a same policy officially on articles, but the idea generally holds. If it makes any claim as to the notability of the subject, it should probably go to AfD, unless it clearly fits a CSD criteria. In the other article, I don't think it really does. However, if you should find a certain criteria you do think it fits, feel free to re-tag it. The best thing to do when doing RC patrol is to tag with a specific criteria, such as {{db}}, or something like that. The admins on CSD patrol will generally know the criteria really well, and immediately know if it fits that or not. Cheers! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 06:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
* My philosophy is this (please tell me if I'm totally off my rocker here): When doing RC patrol, I use only speedy tags (sometimes specific, sometimes not), to get the attention of one admin (the one who happens to see the tag first). If that single admin (or even an ordinary user) thinks my tag is inappropriate, he/she will change it to something more suitable - and I won't object. Admin time consumed: 1 x 20 seconds. However, if I take something to AfD, we may have a situation where several over-worked admins will have to spend their time voting and explaining their reasoning. Admin time consumed: n x 60 seconds, n being... well, you get the idea! Thoughts? --Janke | Talk 06:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, I think what would be the most helpful would be to try to tag things as accurately as possible. It does take a little time to get a sense of what is a CSD and what is an AfD, but it's generally better to err on the side of caution than not. If something is incorrectly tagged, then the admin has to take the time to fix that, and that is a bit time consuming. When on CSD patrol, it's nice to just be able to burn through them and knock them out, and the ones I can zip through are the ones that are correctly tagged, because then I can just go, yep, thats right, and *poof* it's gone, but the ones that are wrong take a little longer. The ones that are just the wrong CSD (people like to use "nonsense" for everything) Aren't too bad, you can just delete them anyway and list the right reason, unless you have to be like me sometimes and go explain to the user why they mis-tagged the CSD. However the ones that should really be an AfD take longer. I think you have the right idea trying to get an admins attention with tagging it with something, but why not go ahead and make sure it's tagged correctly? Don't be afraid to submit stuff to AfD, doing that will help you get a sense of what will and won't generally gain a consensus for deletion, and what should or shouldn't be a speedy. If you take something to AfD that should be CSD, people will generally know and comment that, and before long an admin will generally wander by and delete it and close it. It doesn't really take that long to close an AfD. Also, keep in mind that regular users as well as admins are allowed and encouraged to participate in AfD! Non-admins can even close certain debates with a clear consensus, the only thing limited to admins are closing delete debates and disputed debates. But anyway, thanks for the good work and keep it up! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 18:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disney's "fag" quote

Apocryphal it may be, but I did give a source for it (Schickel), and I'd appreciate it if you'd dig up a citation for those "other sources" who say Disney did appreciate his artists' interest in art forms other than animation. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Seen it in many places, found one quote by Disney in Bob Thomas' biography: "What young artists need is a school where they can learn a variety of skills, a place where there is cross-pollination". --Janke | Talk 18:07, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Good. Put it in. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:14, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Little Rock indian school

This article doesn't seem to meet the requirements for deletion; it's not a vanity article. Is just the fact that the entity is obscure worth removing the article? I call foul! (anon IP edit)

I put a speedy tag on this because (correct me if I'm wrong), wiki policy is not to include schools, unless they are notable in some way. I did some RC patrol, and put on the tag - it's now removed. That's OK with me. --Janke | Talk 10:33, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Microsoft Management Console

You tagged Microsoft Management Console for speedy deeltion as a copyvio. Pleaser note that {{db-copyvio}} takes a parameter (url=) to sepcify the source URL. Please use this parameter in future. Note also that when taggign a copyvio for spedy deletion, you should notify the articel creator by using {{nothanks-sd}}. Please do this when tagging speedy copyvios in future. -DES

The way to get the URL into the tag is to add a URL parameter. Suppoase I wanted to tag a page as copied from google's main page. I would enter {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.google.com}} Many templates, including this one, have a "usage" section on their talk pages which describes all the parameters and indicates how to use the tempalte. DES (talk) 16:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Slow Motion

When I realized I couldn't comfortably fit 48 frames into the diagram, I knew I had two choices, part of a second or a slower frame rate. In the end I think the people who might be confused by the diagrams are the same people who won't know the difference and between 24 and 10. So I feel its more important to show a whole second, since part of a second is equally confusing. Hopefully no one will read the article and then go adjust the frame rate on their SR3. Plowboylifestyle 18:25, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish name for Finland

Thank you for enlightening me! You're right - I should have read on! Cheers Monkey Tennis 12:40, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Grand Scale and Miniature railways

It makes a lot of sense to merge these. Please go ahead and take a first pass. I was intending adding to the Miniature Railways page in the next few days. I'd be very happy to work on a merged version. Gwernol 21:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Incandescence Shmimcandescence

Thanks for catching my mistake on the FPC description. Debivort 10:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/DrugChart

It's a great diagram, very informative, and is perfect in the context of the article. But I can't imagine it as a FP (in thumb size, without working links) on the Main Page of Wikipedia.

Wikipedia Featured pictures guidelines state, "the images featured on Wikipedia:Featured pictures should illustrate a Wikipedia article in such a way as to add significantly to that article. Pictures that are striking but do not illustrate an article can be submitted to Featured picture candidates on the Wikimedia commons.". How does this not apply, and how could any chart or diagram qualify according to your comment? --Thoric 18:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I was about to write a comment too, but all I wanted to say is in the above. --Janke | Talk 21:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I guess that's what I get for not answering comments on my own page as well as the users page. My point is that you weren't voting on the empty chart background graphic image:BlankDrugChart.png, but instead for the whole chart itself. I've made a graphic which includes all the text to help convey this to those who don't seem to understand what I mean -- image:Drugchart.png. I am now asking those who voted oppose specifically to the blank chart graphic, to reconsider their vote, and to vote upon the non-blank chart instead. I think you will agree that the non-blank chart does stand on its own, even though this is not a requirement according to the guidelines. --Thoric 21:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, that doesn't change my opinion. In addition that a FP should add to an article (which I say it does), it should be good (preferably "striking") as an image, too. However good the chart is in context, I don't find it graphically very "striking". PS: I really think we shouldn't take FPC discussions to personal talk pages --Janke | Talk 21:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I just didn't want to over-clutter the FPC page. I guess this should have been discussed on the FPC talk page? --Thoric 21:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit of Image:Pleiades large.jpg is now an FP

Congratulations, and thank-you for the work you did on it. I have uploaded your edit, Image:Pleiades half.jpg over Image:Pleiades large.jpg as your edit was the best liked version. As such Image:Pleiades half.jpg will be deleted. Thanks again. Raven4x4x 10:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wishes

I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. --Bhadani 15:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vitaphone

The now-blocked user Vitaphone re-registered under the username AnimationFanatic in order to avoid me getting my username changed, and registered again as PietroShakarian in an attempt to impersonate me. UPDATE: I'm not sure if somebody banned his former IP or not, but now he's using 202.47.247.156 and now he's impersonating contributor [removed] with [removed]. -- Pietro Shakarian 19:04, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Animation

Well done, thanks! I'm sure we'll continue cleaning up all this, there are quite a few sub-pages that still need some work (Animated cartoon being one I created, the only one with a timeline of animation styles.) -- Janke | Talk 16:44, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Thank you, I've been working away in the hope that it would be appreciated! I've just finished applying the Root page concept which I invented for Noise and realised would work well here. There's now a description of what this is about at Root page, as of an hour ago! I've applied it to some animation pages, but many more need the root page link adding in the first line of the 'See also'. By refering every page back to the Root page, and listing all derivatives on the root page people can readily see what work has already been done, and avoid duplication. It would be nice if you would now help spread the word on the Root page idea and help put the links in place. --Lindosland 16:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Will you comment on a potential FPC?

Hello Janke. This is Debivort, the FPC contributor who made the annotated San Juan Panorama, on which I valued your comments. I was wondering if you had time to comment on another potential FPC that I am making. You can find it at here. Thanks if you have time Debivort 09:39, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Calibration

I bumped up my screen to the brightest setting and I still couldn't see it. It might be because I (seemingly) can't change the contrast on my screen, which was one of the instructions on the Adobe Gamma applet - so the calibration isn't perfect. Oh well. But I can see the right hand half on my work computer, so I know what I'm looking for now... As for the reminder at the top of FPC, it sounds like a good idea; but perhaps we should raise it on the Talk page first, otherwise it may be construed as instruction creep or something like that. Cheers. enochlau (talk) 23:21, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish people & coffee

I don't know... I knew Finns drink a lot of coffee (I didn't know they top the statistics though!) but I have a hard time seeing it as anything that's particularly Finnish, or a 'characteristic of Finnishness' like all the other things in the section. - ulayiti (talk) 12:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Picture
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Animhorse.gif, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. ~~~~

Congratulations, and thankyou for creating it for us. Raven4x4x 07:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image license

Hi, there is a problem with copyright status of Image:Cyanobloom.png. Please compare page http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?id=1141 and http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/useterms.php (look for SeaWiFS ... direct request for permission is required). Therefore I applied Template:No license. --RuM 16:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sea anemones

I'm currently uploading the scan to Image:Haeckel Actiniae.bmp on commons. It may take a while, as it's ~25 MB.--ragesoss 22:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

That didn't work, so I uploaded a slightly smaller png version: Image:Haeckel Actiniae.png.--ragesoss 23:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kven

Hello Janke. I was wondering if you would have a look at the article on the Kvener (ethnic Finns of Northern Norway) and perhaps give your suggestions. To me, it seems like 80% original research. Thanks! //Big Adamsky 12:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello again Janke. Yes I have already left a request on that user's talk page. See also my answer to you at my own talk page.
Also, a similar problem exists with User:213.216.199.10 who continually inserts massive unstructured blocks of prose into the Kven article and its talk page without signing his/her comments. What to do? //Big Adamsky 17:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slide rule pic

Thanks for Image:Csl.JPG! That is all. Cheers, Melchoir 00:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, truly an amzing thing. But I notice it has pi and not 2pi... well, nothing's perfect. Melchoir 08:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Albury railway station

Thanks for attempting to explain halos / artefacts but I really cannot see what you are referring to in the picture being discussed - neither in the thumbnail nor the larger picture downloaded. I use firefox (shouldn't make any difference), I guess screen quality might, but ...? Or else perhaps I just don't get it. I understand and can see the clouds though :-) --A Y Arktos 08:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arirang Festival

Regarding Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Arirang: Janke, I have uploaded a larger (1200 x 514) image, would you like to take another look? Thanks,--Colle|Image:locatecolle.gif|Talk-- 21:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stiching challenge

Sure, I'll give it a go. :) I thought the job you did on your panorama was quite excellent though, for a manual stitch. Just point me to the originals and I'll see what I can do. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 19:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I tried to give the stitching a go but found that it actually ended up curving the the horizon between each image. I suspect it may be due to the lack of much of an overlap (I usually end up with around 50% overlap. Overkill perhaps but better than messing the entire panorama up with a gap between frames. :) The software has never done it before and I'm at a loss to explain why. I also usually do horizontal panoramas with portrait format so you can zoom in a little further and get greater detail (although more frames to stitch!). So long story short - I was able to stitch the entire scene but the curvature of the horizon (at the stitch point betwee every frame) renders it pretty useless. :( Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 22:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hanko FPC

I was going to, but I held my vote when I read that you might be uploading files for Dschwen to continue the image to the right. I'll vote now nevertheless. - JPM | 15:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Central Terminal picture

Your edit of Diliff's Grand Central Terminal panorama, Image:Grand Central test.jpg, has just become a Featured Picture! Congratulations. Raven4x4x 10:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question about a picture.

I've noticed that you have been active with images and graphics, so i'm asking for your opinion on whether the topmost image in the boxing article has any hope of becoming a featured image? The quality has been reduced slightly from the original. ---Marcus- 00:14, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The picture has now been nominated here. I was mistaken about the quality being reduced though. ---Marcus- 10:35, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Indischer version3.jpg
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Indischer version3.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. ~~~~

Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 06:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

You do it if you want. Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 00:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merit of image peer review

I recently created an image, and not only was it my first image for wikipedia, but by most standards the first image I've ever created. I was hoping for some feedback but there's not really a place for feedback on images aside from Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates and my image is certainly not of that caliber, and never will be. Rather than tracking down some people to review my image I decided to create a new page for this purpose. It's far from finished and I'm happy to finish it myself, but before I put in the effort I want to be sure that the idea has merit. I've outlined enough of the page that you should have a clear idea of what it will be. I'd appriciate if you'd take a look at it here and then leave me a note on my talk page and let me know if you think it is worthwhile. Vicarious 09:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I've been informed that a page with this intent already exists (Wikipedia:Picture Peer Review), although frustratingly nothing points to it so I didn't spot it before. Anyway, please disregard. Vicarious 10:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Dettifoss Iceland3.jpg

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  • As stated in the upload comment: (Version 3 for FPC See original Image:Iceland_Dettifoss_1972.jpg for photographer & license) Since this was a temporary file, you may delete it as you see fit. Thanks, --Janke | Talk 06:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Hankopan.JPG is now featured
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Hankopan.JPG, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. ~~~~

Congratulations! ~ Veledan • Talk 00:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish POV pusher

Thanks for notifying me. Oh boy. I wish we could get him for the 3RR or something. --Khoikhoi 07:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your orb spider FPC edit

I notice you uploaded an edited version of the orb spider FPC, Image:Orb weaver cropped03.jpg. As this version wasn't promoted, it currently isn't being used in any articles. Would you like me to delete it as a redundant image, or would you prefer to keep it uploaded? I notice you marked the file as temporary, but I'd still prefer to check. Raven4x4x 09:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Computer Generated FPC

Hehe, my brain wasn't quite functioning :). Thanks for the praise, I really appreciate it. The CG image you put up for FPC is brilliant. I still can't believe how incredibly real it looks. --liquidGhoul 09:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: FPC canidate Washington Crossing the Delaware

I located a larger and higher resolution picture and uploaded it in the article as "Version 2". I think this version address the complaint you posted on the fpc page. TomStar81 06:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish CoA

Nope. But you could do it yourself :) The source is given, so just go ahead. Also, I was not using Photoshop, I don't like unfree programs. Halibutt 17:00, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

You got me wrong. You can upload any version you like to anywhere. However, please do not overwrite my work. It is a part of a bigger project (check it here and you're not helping it with your work. You can pick any other location for the file you create, why use the one that's already taken? //Halibutt 16:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
OK, now the corrected vesion is saved with another name, and used in the Finland article, where there were opposition (on talk) against your original version: 1 - the pointrd bottom (a clear error), 2 - the "artsy" reflection, which we believe doesn't fit in the infobox. Usually corrected versions are loaded over old ones, but I had no idea of your larger project. Greetings, --Janke | Talk 09:51, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image Tagging Image:Salatinophoto.gif

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I only moved this from "Image.jpg" (or something like it), when a policy I suggested was implemented. I have no idea of the copyright status, as this was a user page image of the user himself. Oh, and since I assume you're an admin, can you please fix what was mentioned here: Image talk:Logo.png. As someone else has pointed out, there are typos on that page, probably made by me when uploaded, but the page is now protected according to the policy, so I can't fix it... Greetings, --Janke | Talk 06:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I'll go ahead and leave a message on the other user's talk page; thanks for the notification. I'm actually not an administrator myself, but I'll ask some people to make the change soon. — Rebelguys2 talk 19:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo.png typos in description text

Please see Image talk:Logo.png. As someone else has pointed out, there are typos on that page, but it's protected. If you're an admin, could you fix it, please? If not... pass the buck to someone who is, I guess. I dunno. :) Thanks! --Quuxplusone 05:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FP opinion

You seem to have a good grasp of FP, so I figured i'd ask you before spending time setting up an FP. Do you think either of these photos have a chance? -06:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Cobh Cathedral at Cobh
Cobh Cathedral at Cobh
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell


[edit] Re: Computer still life

How's the rendering comin along? We all wait for your HUGE version... ;-) Greetings, --Janke | Talk 06:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Quite well :). So far it's been 146:42:15, and 1069 lines (out of 2400) have been rendered. That's 494 seconds per line, so there's 12 days remaining. I guess I severely underestimated how long it would take. I posted the partial render at http://bubka.rh.rit.edu/rendering.png if you'd like to take a look. It opens fine in Firefox, but if you use IE you might have to use an image editor to view it (since it's an incomplete file). ~MDD4696 22:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Great! Looks really nice (I'm a Firefox Mac-man...), and you're already more than 44% done... ;-) One question though: What gamma did you use - 3.0? Your version looks a bit darker than the original upload, but that can of course be corrected after rendering. Nice work! --Janke | Talk 06:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I used a gamma setting of 3.2. It is darker, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet. I'm hesitant to adjust the gamma after the rendering, because it's not as accurate, but I suppose we'll see when it's done. ~MDD4696 16:59, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marker

Way back in September last year, you edited the Marker_pen page, and until recently yours was still the most recent major edit. Purely as a courtesy, I thought I'd let you know that I made some substantial changes to it this week. -- apm

[edit] Pirate

I don't have any other versions, unfortunately. I never really anticipated it would be this popular, alas. user:J.J.

[edit] your comment

Janke, I appreciated your comment regarding my FPC. It just seems like some go on and on about the obvious, or even the factors conceded in the nomination.    GUÐSÞEGN   – UTEX – 22:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Hogbckrdg.JPG

Hi Janke. I just closed the failed nom for this image but I haven't tagged your alt version for deletion because I do think it's an improvement on the original. Not sure what to do with it... I don't think it would be untoward to upload it over the original but I'll leave it up to you (sorry, but *yawn* ← off to bed) ~ Veledan • Talk 23:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for Great Wall picture support

Thank you for supporting my nominated picture of the Great Wall. Also, thank you for volunteering to include the featured picture into the respective article.--Ryz05 08:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi Janke,

My name is Fernanda Viégas and I have been studying Wikipedia for a while now (you can see a paper I published on the subject here). I would like to ask you a few questions about your activities as a Wikipedia image creator. I am fascinated by the pictorial side of Wikipedia and it would be great to hear about this community from one of its members. Would you be available to participate an email survey this week? Thanks, — Fernanda 03:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC) | talk

Thanks for agreeing to participate in the study, Janke! You can email me using the "email this user" feature on my Wikipedia page. This way I'll be able to send you the survey. — Fernanda 16:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC) | talk

[edit] Machu Picchu nomination

Hi Janke. I didn't want to start another debate over withdrawing nominations on the main WP:FPC page, so I've come here to reply. I know that when we were discussing FPC withdrawals, I tendered a guideline that the nominator could withdraw a supportless nomination, but if you did want to withdraw this one I don't think the supporters would take it amiss. On the other hand, will it do any harm to leave it? It's not like people are piling on with oppose votes: I think the withdrawal suggestions were to save people the mortification of having to look at their nomination for a fortnight with 20 opposes and no support!

It's a pity about the stitching. I do hope you're able to get the original shots and you or Diliff can re-do it. It's a breathtaking picture. ~ Veledan • Talk 16:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You're welcome

...I had your page on my watchlist from asking you a question earlier. I usually check all diffs on my watchlist, and I noticed the wierd blanking. -Ravedave 15:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: POV-ray render

How is yours coming along? I'm about to put up a poll to get a new nomination rolling. Please reply on my talk page, thanks! --Janke | Talk 18:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

The rendering had slowed to a halt (1 line every hour) for the last week because my computer ran out of RAM and virtual memory (causing it to thrash... constantly reading from and writing to the disk). I stopped it and restarted my computer... now the new rendering doesn't match the old one! Put the poll up whenever you feel like it; the current rendering is at http://bubka.rh.rit.edu/rendering.png so people can use that to judge. I don't want to delay the promotion any more, and personally I think we should upload Deadcode's version over the original. I can eventually link to mine as an alternative on the image page. Thanks for keeping track of this! ~MDD4696 21:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pakkoruotsi vandal

What a sly, sly trick. I'll keep an eye on the page, and I'll report this guy/girl if they make any uncivil comments. Cheers! —Khoikhoi 03:12, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Heheheh, indeed! If he acts up again, we can just block 'em. —Khoikhoi 06:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured picture promotion
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:MachuPichuSacredValley fir000202 edit.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.


It made it in the end! Congratulations on steering it through :-) ~ Veledan • Talk 18:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Closing the POV-ray nom

Hi Janke. No problem, I'll close the nomination. I didn't vote by the way because I preferred the no.4 ice cube but wasn't confident that I wasn't being foolish :-). Not that it would have made a difference, version 1 is going forward

I'll use my new promotion bot to do the honours anyway. For a few days only, I must be the person who has to put least effort into an FP promotion :-) ~ Veledan • Talk 20:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured picture promotion
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Glasses 800.png, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.


You've done a splendid job, not just by steering this and Machu Picchu and other images through FPC, but by improving them immensely in the process! ~ Veledan • Talk 17:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured picture promotion
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Walschaerts motion.gif, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.


~ Veledan • Talk 17:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FP

FYI you removed two edits when you added your comment here I will attempt to re-add them in a sec. -Ravedave 15:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TIG welding

That's awesome! Sorry I wasn't more of a help previously, but I'm glad I was at least somewhat useful =). --Spangineer[es] (háblame) 02:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Haeckel Actiniae edit.jpg

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It now has the PD-old tag. --Janke | Talk 06:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

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  • This was a temporary file for FPC. It is now deleted. --Janke | Talk 08:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Small-Liverpool Metro rect.jpg

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  • This was a temporary file for FPC. I havce requested it to be deleted. --Janke | Talk 08:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Couple of comments...

Just a couple of remarks about the rules for WP on your page. A.) rule number 1 shows assonance, not alliteration. It would still work if you swapped the words. 2.) rule number 16 isn't not no double negation... it is triple negation, therefore making it awfully valid.

Just thought I'd mention it. See you around. --Mark Neelstin (Dark Mark) 21:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scandinavia article

Hi there, I note that you have often made very good contributions to the Finland-Swedes article. I just wanted to draw your attention to a serious inaccuracy (v. misleading!) in the Scandinavia article's language section. Among other things it alleges that using the Finnish language is banned in Åland and that Sweden was behind the setting up of the SFP to ensure that the Swedish language was still forced on the Finns. I thought perhaps you would be a good person to edit this section to make it more accurate? 94pjg 22:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for helping to sort this out. It was certainly rampent Fennomania indeed. Looks much better now. 94pjg 17:20, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Cuevas de las Manos

I uploaded a 1600x1200 version of the image (remember to refresh the browser). I have some other images of the Cuevas that are also nice. I'll upload them once I get the contrast right. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 06:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Snowed-In Trees

Hi again, I know it was silly to get frustrated over my pic. Admittably it may not be featured picture quality, but I think I may have found my nack, photoshoping. I wasent sure how exactly to remove it from featured picture canidate page, I was afraid of damaging the archive part of it. If you don't mind could you tell me how to remove it or remove it for me? (Unsigned by User:M jurrens 2006-06-04

Done, --Janke | Talk 08:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)