User talk:Jan Hidders

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[edit] Discussion before late 2004

I am thankful for your guidance to a newbie. Have a look at my contributions at: of Keystroke KeyStroke

There's really no need to thank me. The fact that you stayed and are making great contributions is all the thanks that I need. :-) -- Jan Hidders 16:36, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hi Jan, I see you're replace occurrences of "mediaeval" with "medieval". Although there's nothing wrong with that, "mediaeval" is the perfectly correct spelling of the word, be it the British one. Americans spell it the other way (as always taking the easier way to write it). I don't mind if you continue your "hunt", but you may want to spent your time on something else :-) Jeronimo

Thanks for the tip, I really didn't know that. But actually on the page in question the word was spelled in two different ways when I came there. -- Jan Hidders 11:20 Aug 21, 2002 (PDT)
Thanks for all the hlep we recieved with spellchekking!!! :-) --Ed Poor

Jan, you may want to have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics, especially at the talk there as we try to formulate style rules for the new TeX support. AxelBoldt 00:04 Jan 8, 2003 (UTC)

Its best to avoid making statements that have roots in logical fallacy, esp. you want to be a professional philosopher who garners respect for their capacity within that epistemic community.Fom my latest post of your edification:


The process of giving unique Goedel identifer to each grammatical expression in one axiomatic system ( one version of the foundations of mathematics, usually identified as principia mathematica.), is a reletively straight forward matter.

  1. Grammatically true statements in their minimum form may be identified by hand or in software implementaion. They are expressed in a language of symbolic logic. Each term used in the symbolic logic is uniquely identified with a natural number.
  2. Grammatically true statements are uniquely identified with a number through a mark-up procedure involving an member of the prime number sequence used as a power on each term of the expresion. The results of each operation are summed.
  3. Following this procedure will produce uniquely identifiable positve number for each expression of sybolic logic.

Because it was a work of philosophy, in the field of meta-Matematics, the fact that the numbers become arbitraily huge after a few terms is irrelevant. For a philosopher, the fact that this can be done in any disipline that depends on symblic logic (including all fields of study in science that use mathematics.) Some statements have comparatively small number values.

Two16. All appeals to rank, privilage, and authority are logical fallacies in all cases, in all circumstances, in epistemic communities.

Sorry, but you are wrong, the appeal to authority is in some cases very appropriate in Wikipedia. That is because ultimately it is not a forum for scientific discussions about what is true and not, but merely reports the current understanding of the issues by leading authorities and scientists that are presumed to be the experts. Again, as Axel already said, if you want your theory to be mentioned in Wikipedia you should see that it gets accepted by the involved scientists. -- Jan Hidders 16:57 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)

Please please read my posts with more care in the future. Please reread what I actually posted. My post on this page gives the structure of Goedal arguement.It is best to remain silent when you know not of what you speak.

User:Two16

The structure of the proof is not what is disputed and therefore irrelevant for the discussion. What is disputed are the philosophical consequences and your view on that seems to be rather uncommon under the experts and therefore has no place in Wikipedia. End of discussion. -- Jan Hidders 22:44 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)

Read the 35 page work. You seem to not have confidence in the ability of the community to identify logical fallacey. Why don't you take a look at the action of axelBolht's most recent user contributions to the foundations of mathematics and to the goedel articles. Reread my posts, then you will not present strawman arguements in place of my use of logic.

A defence of appeal to authority which is itself an appeal to authority, is never good form. Normally it would be considered an embarrassment. User:Two16

I said "end of discussion" and I meant it. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. -- Jan Hidders 23:45 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)

My apologies. I thought your statement "End Of Discussion." was a rhetorical flourish to lend authority to your arguement and not an actual command. Again, my humblest apology. User:Two16

Two16 got a formal warning from Jimbo so he (she?) is on their best behaviour. Prepare to be lovebombed!!! JTD
I don't think that is how he meant it. If this is his best behaviour and he doesn't begin to realize that Wikipedia is not a debating club, I fear for his future here. Let's hope he does. -- Jan Hidders 18:05 Feb 14, 2003 (UTC)


Jan, on Time hierarchy theorem I gave a definition of time-constructible, and I'm not sure if it is the standard one, or if it is equivalent to the standard one. Could you have a look? AxelBoldt 21:26 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)

Hello Jan, I ran into a problem at computable number. There are two definitions, one from Turing and another one that seems more sensible. You see the problem :-) AxelBoldt 15:31, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hello Jan,

I saw that you took a keen interest in the History of Turkey article and in particular in the (non) mentioning of the Armenian genozide. I agree with your view that it has to be mentioned, nevertheless I removed the last formulation as it did no justice to the matter, not even to the controversy and the different views of Turkish government vs rest of the world. I am searching for a new way of formulating it and have written something on the talk pages. I would be very glad if you could help + contribute - I am really looking for a NPOV formulation which while covering both POVs' does not use euphemisms like "relocation". The use of euphemismsm appears to me worse than the non-mentioning Refdoc 09:42, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Dutch Wikipedia symposium in Rotterdam (27/11/2004)

Hi,

As a personal initiative I want to mention to you http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Symposium/Najaar_2004

There have been some voices that Dutch-speaking Belgian wikipedians might be underrepresented at that venue, so I took the liberty to post this message on the talk page of all people I found on Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Belgium.

If this doesn't apply to you (e.g. while French-speaking, or not interested in Dutch wikipedia,...) simply ignore this message.

--Francis Schonken 09:29, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Data Management Wiki Committee

Thank you for your contribution to one, or more, articles that are now organized under Data management.

Because of your previous intrest, you are recieving an invitation to become a founding member of the Data Management Wiki Committee.

The members, of course, will form and solidify the purpose, rules, officers, etc. but my idea (to kick things off) is to establish a group of us who will take responsiblity to see that the ideas of Data management are promoted and well represented in Wikipedia articles.

If you are willing to join the committee, please go to Category_talk:Data_management and indicate your acceptance of this invitation by placing your three tilde characters in the list.

KeyStroke 01:13, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)

[edit] About Candidate Key Article

Jan,
regarding Candidate key, I'm reluctanct to write my own version, as my mother language is other than English. However, I plan to work on the relational theory articles for the wikipedia in Spanish and, maybe, translate them later over here.

Regards, --Ejrrjs 21:48, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Your help is very welcome, of course. If language is a problem but you have good ideas on possible additions and improvements on the structure of the article then I suggest you simply make the changes anyway and then I or somebody else will straighten the language (although I'm actually also not a native English speaker myself). -- Jan Hidders 22:22, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

HI Jan. I am adding to Category:Belgian television. I have started actors, presenters, TV programmes and directors and wondered if you could check my work. Please check Mark Uytterhoeven and Leo Madder for example. THankyou,. I look forward to hearing from you. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 10:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relation

I'm trying to clean up the Relation disamg page and move links. If I f something up let me know Drunken Pirate 04:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bruges burial

Please can you tell me how to find the burial place in Bruges of John Arbuthnott, 8th Viscount of Arbuthnott ? - Kittybrewster 21:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

If you are still around, I have some questions about your thoughts on Wikipedia today, compared to many years ago... and whether you still see the need for a public domain encyclopedia. Be well, +sj + 04:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)