Talk:Janis Ian

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[edit] Lesbian or bi?

I thought she identified as bisexual. Also, regardless of her orientation it's really not necessary to mention it in the first sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.170.211 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 21 July 2006

Agreed as to non-necessity. As to the content – I remember hearing her tell Howard Stern in ~1992 that she had had one disastrous marriage and one other male lover, and if she didn't say then "I'm never gonna play with boys again" she pretty strongly implied it. —Tamfang 16:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music history link

I sent this message to User talk:Rkitko regarding a change made to the music history wikilink edit I made:

Thx for catching the edit so quickly. I like how we keep on top of things. I do believe, however, that the link you made is not the best choice.

The reason I linked to a category is that if you look at the Music history article to which you linked, it currently only goes to 1950, which is one year before Janis was even born. If you look at the History of music article, linked to from the Music history page, it is concerned with music history prior to Janis Ian, with the exception of the 20th century music link.

The 20th century link, while encompassing the times of some of Janis' contributions to music history, deals with ONLY contemporary music, and not the totality of music history.

The sentence in which the link appears deals with contemporary music since the existence of the Grammies, so it could be argued that the 20th century link would be appropriate.

However, it is my opinion that the 'Grammy' time frame can be deduced by clicking on the existing Grammy Hall of Fame. This link, although it doesn't link directly to the Hall of Fame, does provide access to Hall of Fame article and the Grammy article, from which the time frame is referenced.

BUT the link in question is simply for 'music history,' in a sentence dealing with the time period from 1972/1973 to present, therefore a link to the Music history category is best suited since it reflects the actual text of the link (music history), and from its contents, one can find the time frame within the context of the sentence in which the link is made.

If there is another solution, I do not currently know.

I think there should be more work done within the music category. I will go check out wikiprojects and see what, if anything, is being planned...SteinAlive 06:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply! Perhaps I'm still too new, but I haven't come across any situation yet where a link directly to a category in the text of an article has been appropriate. When clicking upon it, a user is expecting another article. Is this common practice elsewhere on Wikipedia and I just haven't caught it yet? Otherwise, you're right about the lack of information in this time period, but I suppose that's a failing of the available articles and they need to be expanded significantly. On second look, the music history article doesn't seem appropriate either since it focuses on the academic. History of music seems most appropriate to me, even though it lack a lot of contemporary information. I say this because when a user clicks on that link, they expect to be directed to an article on music history, not a category and not a very specific article on the time frame of music. Per WP:PIPE, I wouldn't want to create a borderline easter egg link. Thoughts? Might I also take this opportunity to say thanks for doing that bit of cleanup and wikilinking? That was excellent. (Now all I need to do is find a good PD photo of her. I have a few, but they're not wiki worthy). Cheers, --Rkitko (talk) 07:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Re: PD photo - Put up the the best you have, even if not great. (1) Having something will be better than nothing, most likely. (2) It might inspire someone to do even better much more than lack of a photo does.  :) -Aleta 00:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, when I say it's not Wiki worthy, I mean I'd have to crop in pretty tight to exclude myself and my partner who got our photo taken with her in 2004. I'll see what I can do, but I'm not making any promises! --Rkitko (talk) 00:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish?

Is she? I ask only because the only mention in the article is the categories she's in - no text in the article itself. Anyone know? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, she's Jewish:
The singer continues on the Nashville theme , "it's very conservative. There are a lot of things about it that are a little odd for me ", says Janis, " being Jewish and gay... but it's also got that southern tolerance of the eccentric, where people just go, ' well that's just Janis ' ".
from [1]
--Rkitko (talk) 07:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
So maybe that can go in the article somewhere? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] EARLY RECORDINGS

Janis Ian, did some of her early recordings at the 914 Sound Studios in Blauvelt New York, with Brooks Arthur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyackhigh (talkcontribs) 00:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

If true, and important, and verifiable, then add it to the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)