Talk:Jana Defi

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[edit] photo dispute

Would you guys please hash out which photo to use here, rather than reverting the article's image back and forth? Both seem to have the same source and rationale, so that's not really a good reason to select one over the other. One seems to be more 'flattering' than the other, but maybe that's just my perspective. Whichever one we don't keep will have to be deleted, as fair use images only make sense when they're in use. So please talk here, okay? I don't care one way or the other, but watching the article flip back and forth isn't productive. -- nae'blis 16:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Personal opinion, for someone whose notoriety stems from her bust, a slightly more revealing, yet still tasteful image, seems more appropriate Charlam 00 00:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of which picture looks better (the older one does) neither qualifies under WP:FU. --207.109.2.133 21:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] "erotic" website?

What on earth is an erotic website? Does the author perhaps mean a porn website? 82.92.181.129 08:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Search for the word "erotic" in a dictionary. --Snkcube 19:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] pointless

A text only discription of something famous for it's appearance is of little value.

If you can find a noncopyrighted photo or a photo that qualifies as fair use, by all means post it. However, WP:FU is fairly clear that we can't just put up any picture we like just because we want to.--Beaker342 22:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title Change & Redirect

And the title of this page should be "Jana Defi". It appears that her newest agency calls her by her real name and the alias "Maria Swan" has gone by the wayside (correct me if I'm wrong). It seems as though that name was used only in the past. Even if it's not, her official name should be used for the page. And "Jana Defi" should redirect to this page, or "Maria Swan" should redirect to "Jana Defi". Is it possible she changed her name from her birth name to Maria Swan? We need accurate information on her name. — Hizrael 18:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eye Color

Unless she wears contacts for some of her shoots (which I strongly doubt), her eyes change color. In some pictures they're green, and in others she has been brown-eyed. In some pictures, her eyes also range from being grey to being hazel-colored. How should we classify her eye color? Brown is a very common color for them as well as green. — Hizrael 18:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Anything wrong with hazel? 24.91.139.74 03:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Measurements

Am I missing something? I would think that a girl with a bra size of 32G is bigger than a girl with a bra size of 32E or 36EE, but based on the measurements we currently have posted, Maria appears to be only one centimeter bigger than Yoko Matsugane and a few centimeters smaller than Ewa Sonnet. Can anyone explain why I'm confused?

  • Yoko Matsugane & Ewa Sonnet must have big backs. Epbr123 14:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Not to mention there are several different bra size standards: European and Japanese are not the same, for example – even though some models are given a "metric" size, implying that there's a universal metric standard, which is not the case. And then plain exaggeration is quite common amongst well-endowed models. A good advice would be not to believe the statistics to these models given in their Wikipedia articles; of the ones you've mentioned especially Ewa Sonnet's are seriously messed up, not to mentioned misconverted. Note that Defi's original European bra size is 75G (can be found on her biopage on Nadine Jansen's website, she also mentiones it herself on this interview in German at 0:20), and the US/UK equivalent for 75 is not 32, but 34; Loaded magazine actually got it right. For all three the correct figures appear to be:
  • Jana Defi: bust measurement 94 or 96 cm (37 or 37¾ in), European bra size 75G (US/UK 34 + 8 in)
  • Ewa Sonnet: bust measurement 90 cm (35½ in), European bra size originally 70EE (US/UK 32 + 5 in) apparently since increased to 70G (32 + 8 in)
  • Yoko Matsugane: bust measurement 95 cm (37½ in), Japanese bra size originally (70?)H (US/UK 32? + 6 in), apparently since decreased to G (+ 5 in)
I didn't put letters in the conversions, as they're not necessarily the same; rather I put the bust measurement vs. band size differential used to determine cup size. For these conversions, it's irrelevant whether these models actually measure up to their respective sizes or not. And there's the further complication of determing does the clothing standrad at hand include double letters; if not EE=G. Finally, all body measurements are only rough indicators of shape at best, so at times the figures may be radically different from what one might assume based on visual observations. --Anshelm '77 01:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow, she's more notable than I thought she was

--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 15:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible unreliable source

"Much discussion has been given to the nature of her breasts, with a blog presenting its evidence that she has breast implants."

Blogs are not reliable sources, this is a WP:BLP and not only that, the link's gone dead. I've not checked the internet archive yet, but I don't think this is very good to have in the article.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 02:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)