Talk:Jameson Irish Whiskey
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[edit] Discrimination
Jameson was started in Dublin towards the end of the 18th century shortly before the British intensified their stranglehold on Dublin. The British government and police pressured Dublin distillers into only hiring protestants, at least a mjority of protestants. Jameson succamb to this pressure for a little while, although it wasn't without due pressure. They aren't like some of the northern Ireland or other Dublin distillers who overtly discriminated against catholics, but Jameson didn't take any risks to fight the pressure. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wtntiro (talk • contribs).
[edit] Africa trip???
- Has anyone read the cited source and can confirm "In 1887, whilst exploring in Africa with Henry Morton Stanley, James Jameson heir to the whiskey empire, bought an 11-year-old girl for the price of six handkerchiefs and gave her to cannibals so that he could watch her being dismembered, cooked and eaten, while he sketched the whole process."? It sounds kinda fishy to me. Cybersavior 03:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- While i haven't read the book mentions, the person who did put in the reference is correct in that it was mentioned in The Times, see [1]. And while i don't have any reason to question The Times in the accuracy of the information from the book, i do question the merits of the mention in the article. Other the fact the the person in question was apparently an heir to Jameson's, it never mentions that he had anything to do with the company in any position or the whiskey. And i know that this is not the only black sheep to come from a prominent corporate family, and i would be hard pressed to see them mentioned in the same way. For example John Eleuthère du Pont, a member of the DuPont family, murdered Olympic wrestler Dave Schultz, yet he is not mentioned in the DuPont article. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Without the inclusion of the colourful history of the Jameson family, the whole article reads like a corporate puff piece.--Worthing John 19:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, but this article is not about the family, its about the product. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 21:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Concur. I fail to see how this anecdote enhances the article as it relates to the distillery, which is, of course, the subject. Adding a tangentially related story like this is not the way to address the issue of whether or not the article "reads like a corporate puff piece." ~~Cafe Irlandais "Earth calling Cafe Irlandais..."
- Pathetic. Spineless. I suspect that one or more of you is an employee of Jameson Whiskey.--Worthing John 21:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I really didn't even think about its relevance to the article as a whole, I just read that line and thought it might be to outrageous to be true... no ulterior motive, honest. If the Jameson family has its own article, it belongs there. If not, I feel a section should be added about the "Jameson Family" and the information placed there. Opinions? --Cybersavior 06:59, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, I don't know much about the history of Jameson Whiskey or the family. But surely the family history can be added as part of the history of their original distillery or in an article about the family, as mentioned. I take the idea from the article about the Old Bushmills Distillery.
- I forgot to sign, sorry :( ♣DeathRattle101 A.K.A. LUX♣verbalize 04:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Concur. I fail to see how this anecdote enhances the article as it relates to the distillery, which is, of course, the subject. Adding a tangentially related story like this is not the way to address the issue of whether or not the article "reads like a corporate puff piece." ~~Cafe Irlandais "Earth calling Cafe Irlandais..."
- Ok, but this article is not about the family, its about the product. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 21:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Without the inclusion of the colourful history of the Jameson family, the whole article reads like a corporate puff piece.--Worthing John 19:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- While i haven't read the book mentions, the person who did put in the reference is correct in that it was mentioned in The Times, see [1]. And while i don't have any reason to question The Times in the accuracy of the information from the book, i do question the merits of the mention in the article. Other the fact the the person in question was apparently an heir to Jameson's, it never mentions that he had anything to do with the company in any position or the whiskey. And i know that this is not the only black sheep to come from a prominent corporate family, and i would be hard pressed to see them mentioned in the same way. For example John Eleuthère du Pont, a member of the DuPont family, murdered Olympic wrestler Dave Schultz, yet he is not mentioned in the DuPont article. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Sold under the Jameson name"
Two items in this list, Redbreast and Midleton, are most certainly not sold "under the Jameson name". They have their own names, and Jameson does not appear on their labels. This is a factual error which I will correct by deleting the two whiskeys in question from the list. Jtnet (talk) 15:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] want to order personalized bottle from usa
I have seen the personalized bottles from friends that have come back from Ireland. They have said you can only get them from the distillery....I doubt that and want to buy one with the last name crowley....it is a wedding present for a friend from Ireland.... Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.171.252 (talk) 01:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
