Talk:James Pike

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More information about this article... This article has had a peer review by the Biography WikiProject, which has now been archived. The following comments have been left for this page: Work to be done I've requested images for use in the article from agencies where Pike worked - still waiting to hear. I know that images with Pike and MLK are around, and many images of Pike have been taken - In his day he clearly enjoyed media exposure. I'm sure that an image available for use here will turn up. Anyone else have comments on other areas that could improve this article? --RFlynn1000 13:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Added great Creative Commons image - any other ideas for improvement? --RFlynn1000 18:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)p (edit)

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Contents 1 Cleanup 2 Started some work 3 More work 4 Is this NPOV? 5 First-order deacon 6 "Everything" citation for Bishop Pike 7 Not sure on the POV on this "Everything" article

[edit] Cleanup

Jumps around - for example "following his son's suicide" without previous reference to the event. One of several examples of poor prose. I don't know enough about the topic to do it myself. Interesting article though. Wikipeterproject 04:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Started some work

Edited line stating that Pike marched with King (he met with King before the march) and cleaned up the issues surrounding his son's suicide. I'll continue to fill in the bibliography and add citations.

--RFlynn1000 12:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More work

Added standard infobox for Bishop, expanded early life, include complete (I think) bibliography of books published.

--RFlynn1000 14:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is this NPOV?

I wonder if the conclusion drawn at the end of this sentence is NPOV (italics mine):

"In his personal life, Pike was a chain-smoker, an alcoholic, craved attention, and was likely addicted in some way to romance and relationships."

I didn't write this phrase and while it seems a correct conclusion based on the research I've done, it seems a little biased and judgmental. Any thoughts?

--RFlynn1000 19:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a psychological opinion rendered by a church source, so it's not exactly an authoritative source, but at the same time, it draws the reader in to the article. If a corroborating source can be found, leave it in, otherwise remove it. —Viriditas | Talk 12:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The source given supports the first parts of the sentence, but not the final clause that RFlynn1000 particularly draws attention too, so far as I can see. David Underdown 15:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First-order deacon

I'm reasonably well-versed in Anglican terminology, but I'm not sure what is intended to be meant by the description of someone as a "first-order" deacon. I think this needs to be explained more fully. David Underdown 13:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback David!! I've expanded the section on Pike's ordination of the first woman as "first-order" deacon, explaining (I think) that it reflect the first stage in the ordination process as a priest and that it is now called "transitional deacon.

--RFlynn1000 20:11, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Everything" citation for Bishop Pike

Here's an online encyclopedia entry on Bishop Pike. Facts cited should be checked for their source, but as the article contains many details that may be worth including in this Wikipedia article, I'll give the link: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1311819

[edit] Not sure on the POV on this "Everything" article

Some of the basics facts seem inline with what I've read, but with uncited lines like "He plundered diocesan funds to support his mistress", I'd feel uneasy about using much from it. Any other opinions?

RFlynn1000 19:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)