Talk:James Ormonde
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Please fact-check! I have changed the spelling of James' last name from "Ormond" or "Ormonde" which is the spelling of the Earldom in Wikipedia. It could be that the previous spelling was correct. I have also cleaned up the article to the best of my ability, though I cannot fact check it beyond that. JRP 04:26, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Questioning Facts
The name is still spelled without the "e" in the article; i don't know if it was changed back, or never changed, or what. But more importantly, the whole article has questionable facts, even when checked against other Wiki-articles (Witikles?). James is called the son of John, the 6th Earl; but John apparently died unmarried. Even worse, John could hardly have been born before 1408 (his father, James, the 4th Earl, was born in 1392), which makes it highly unlikely that John would be fathering children, even illegitimately, by 1418. My understanding (which is easily flawed) is that a peer's bastard might have been given the name of the title as a surname, which would mean "Ormonde"; if James was not legitimate that would reduce his ability to have succeeded to the title, especially when his uncle Thomas was a legitimate and living heir. Conversely, if he were legitimate, his name would have to be James Butler. Cheers. Lindsay H. 09:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
