Talk:James Orlin Grabbe
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Only the initial and basic skeleton, so far, having just found out that he had passed away. More is coming, as well as references. Since his homepage at www.aci.net/kalliste is now gone, a lot of his writings are now only available via Google and the Wayback archive. If anyone has a more substantial collection of JOG's writings, info about that would be beneficial not only for this article but to many of his fans. XJDR (talk) 14:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Anyone got a picture of JOG that can be used here? There was a decent image at http://www.aci.net/kalliste/corp_risk_mgm.jpg but it's gone now, with the rest of the contents... (XJDR (talk) 15:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC))
- Uploaded now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Orlin_Grabbe_1990.jpg 123privacy (talk) 08:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I will help with the rest of the article, have extensive archives. Please bear with me. 123privacy (talk) 04:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nice, but I think you edited a slightly dated version. I had corrected some things that now got lost. I'll wait a while before I add back some fixes to typos. The section leading to 60 minutes is gone too. I felt that this ought to be mentioned, including JOG's writings about controversial current events. Whatever one might think of them, they did have a significant enough impact. Even 60 minutes agrees with that... Also, the 'Tim Osman' article has been widely cited and referenced to, even in MSM. Probably needs a mention. Cheers, XJDR (talk) 10:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Please double check the history - I didn't remove anything, just retitled the sections and added some items. 123privacy (talk) 00:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Upon further examination you are quite correct. My revision of 05:31, 4 June 2008 differs from your earlier one of 11:11, 3 June 2008. Not quite sure why that is. If you don't manage to get to it in the next 24hrs or so I'll carefully go through and put back in what I removed accidentally. Thanks for your patience. 123privacy (talk) 00:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Great! I have now re-synced. I also took the liberty of doing some further edits... I feel a bit hampered by the loss of his homepage, with so many docs that could be linked and referred to. I'll look around to see if there is some site emerging as THE archive, Meanwhile, I look forward to your further input. XJDR (talk) 05:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have found what seems to be a good archive / mirror / last-minute-snapshot at Bill St.Clair's website. If one can rely on it being there for a long time then that might be a good place to link to for references to some of Orlin's writings. XJDR (talk) 12:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I am the owner of billstclair.com. I intend to indefinitely maintain my mirror of Mr. Grabbe's web site, and I encourage links from Wikipedia and everywhere else. I do not have anyone's permission for my mirror, however, so if someone convinces me that they have rightful ownership of copyright to his writings, and threatens legal action unless I remove my mirror, I will. BillStClair (talk) 14:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- NEWS! The control of the domain www.orlingrabbe.com has been acquired by a group interested in preserving the works of Orlin Grabbe and the spirit in which the site was maintained by him. I have been told that they are making arrangements with his family as well, so there should be no 'legal' problems. I will use that address in the article since that would make all links come out the right way. Should there ever be a problem with this then Bill St.Clair's mirror can and will be used as a fallback resource for this article. All bets are thus hedged. XJDR (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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My thought is that the section about Chaos... is to summarize his use of his homepage, both as a collection of news and views, but most definitely as a place to hold his own writings. Among all the many other good texts, the unfinished series about fractals and financial markets is a real gem, well worthy of preservation and further spread. XJDR (talk) 05:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Note to any other prospective editor: I still have the section about Chaos to write, but as for the rest of the article I consider myself essentially done, at least for now. I have more or less reached the goal I set up for myself. I'm sure there are some 't' or another having its dot missing, some language to tweak/add/delete as well as additional references to add, but I will keep away from the other subsections for at least a week. Becoming blind to ones own text is way too easy. Fresh eyes see clearer. If nothing has happened to the article when I have added the 'Chaos' section I intend to remove the 'Under Construction' tag and declare it all done. XJDR (talk) 21:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm done. For now. OK, I have not assigned any Categories to the article, but that will happen soon, I'm sure. Should anyone want to give me comments in private, just send an email via the Wikipedia email system. Just go to my user page. I do not check such emails daily, but I will respond, even to messages containing nothing but an email address and a PGP key. XJDR (talk) 09:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, I am tweaking links and references even though not a week has passed. Thanks for pointers. XJDR (talk) 17:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Image
The previously uploaded picture of Orlin Grabbe has been removed. I assume it could be due to copyright issues. Even though I did not upload the image file, I did recommend it as a good likeness that captured the spirit of Orlin Grabbe and matched the tone of the article. It is a good image regarding its composition as well. I will get in touch with Risk Management Magazine to see if any copyright issues can be resolved that way. That might take some time... XJDR (talk) 13:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
