Talk:James Churchward
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[edit] James Churchward & Acharya S
I, as the great-grandson of James Churchward, have posted a rebuttal to the entry that Acharya S used portions of his work to show that her theories are correct. I have maintained a neutral position in my arguments and have succintly presented them. My conclusions (which are supported by the facts in the presentation) do not agree with her supporters and they have let me know this by erasing my postings, making nasty comments on my blog, and otherwise harrassing me about it. My great-grandfather would have rolled over in his grave if he knew what she wrote using him as a reference and she doesn't even quote him correctly. I believe that the name of my great-grandfather should not be sullied in this manner. Please look at the external article to discover for yourself if I lied or distorted the truth in any way. Here is a link to the commentary: Rebuttal to James Churchward's 'contributions' to Acharya S works Jchurchward (talk) 01:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mu and Atlantis is not the same
The name Mu refers to an ancient land i the Pacific, whereas Atlantis is said to lay in the Atlantic Ocean.
90.185.60.68 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 13:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Response to Jack Churchward
The link from Jack Churchward leading to his podcast is libelous, defamatory and slanderous, instilling hatred of Acharya S and her work by inaccurately presenting her as an intellectually dishonest author. Jack is purposely using her full real name when and wherever possible which he otained via other vicious attackers of Acharya S attempting to expose her private information which was removed except her name which was private due to her child being abducted by 3 strangers.
The hatred of Acharya S by Jack Churchward is much more about Jack than Acharya S. He simply hates Acharya's mythicist position that Jesus Christ is a mythical character.
Instead of Jack ranting about Acharya S in podcasts and videos simply because someone included a citation of Col. James Churchward at Wikipedia, Jack could've simply removed it himself.
Acharya's work wasn't about Col. James Churchward, nor his beliefs, nor did Acharya insinuate that he subscribed to any of the theories reproduced in her books.
Only one quote from James in "Christ Conspiracy" talks about Christianity out of 1,200 citations and there is only one quote found in "Suns of God" out of 1,800 citations.
And this is why you go out of your way to libel, defame and slander a woman who has to constantly fear her private information being shared?
Before you accuse folks of intellectual dishonesty, maybe you should check your own?
In regards to Jack's claim of Acharya supporters "making nasty comments on my blog, and otherwise harrassing me about it" - all I've seen was one comment on your blog addressing your own intellectual dishonesty and Jack deleted it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.240.236.16 (talk) 21:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] In response to the anonymous poster writing from California on June 3rd, 2008
1. The real name of Acharya S is written on the cover of her book "Who Was Jesus: Fingerprints of the Christ" and can be seen on either the Amazon.com or the Barnes & Noble website. Therefore the argument that I violated someone's privacy is meaningless since she has placed it in the public domain herself (btw, this was the same excuse used to remove the video from YouTube and her name was unmentioned in the video.)
2. Everything written by the anonymous poster is an unsubstantiated ad hominen attack.
3. To repeat a statement from a later podcast: "I hold no ill will against Ms. Murdock or her followers and believe that I have wasted more than enough time and energy on her and her theories."
Jchurchward (talk) 22:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Response to Jack
1. Her pen name was Acharya S. The reason she is now using D.M Murdock is due to other haters, like you Jack, who have already exposed her real name. They tried to post her SS#, CC# and every bit of private information they could get ahold of and THAT is where you found her full name, searching for whatever trash you could find. You sir, didn't stop at just D.M. Murdock. No, you sir, were posting her full name everywhere you could even though the book you're so concerned about was authored by Acharya S. If you could've shared more private information, I'm sure you would have with no concern for her or her young one. You sir, are no better than the 3 strangers who kidnapped her young child.
2. Anyone who compares your irrational hatred of Acharya's work to the actual quotes can see that what I've provided is factual. You've gone out of your way to smear an author (who is still a living person) just because you hate her work. Are you going after all the other sources who cited Col. J. Churchward? No, you're only going after Acharya, a woman, even though, as I've already made clear, there's only one citation in "Christ Conspiracy" that has anything to do with Christianity and there is only one citation in "Suns of God" and it doesn't have anything to do with Christianity either. Why her work is cited here at the J.C. wiki page is beyond me. His work wasn't influential. Acharya's work, fortunately, doesn't stand or fall based on his work.
Again, as already made categorically clear, Acharya's work wasn't about Col. James Churchward, nor his beliefs, nor did Acharya insinuate that he subscribed to any of the theories reproduced in her books. But Jack, you choose to ignore this point.
James Churchward was considered a "crackpot" by many for his views on Atlantis and Mu, etc, Acharya attempted to give him some credibility on certain topics. And this is the thanks she gets? Smooth move Jack.
3. It's time to be honest Jack, you really do have ill will toward Acharya and her supporters, don't you. You seem to be making a big deal over nothing. Why would you do that? What's the real issue here? It appears that James would've agreed with Acharya's work in regards to solar mythology and its history. It's only when it concerns Jesus does it strike a nerve with you, Jack. And since James is no longer with us, we can't really assume what his beliefs might be today.
Besides, as you already know, James's younger brother Albert Churchward wrote, "The Origin and Evolution of Religion" in which he made a large number of comparisons between Horus and Jesus. Do you assume James was completely unaware of Alberts work? That list of comparisons has been widely used by many. Are you attacking those folks for citing that long list too?
Plus, Albert was Gerald Massey's personal physician and his student in religion. His views are pretty much the same as Massey's. Are you going to attack Albert now too?
Still, neither are with us. So today, you're attacking a person who is alive and concerned that you sir, in your own intellectual dishonesty, are attempting to inspire hatred against a woman who has done you no harm.
Jack, when you mention:
"The nasty emails started almost immediately and I shut down the comments section of my blog and set the comments on moderate for YouTube."
All I ever saw was one comment at your blog, pointing out your own intellectual dishonesty on this issue and you deleted it.
Jack "this isn't my fight"
It is solely your fight Jack this is your creation but, what's unclear is what your attempting to gain from your own intellectual dishonesty. Are you trying to promote James' work by launching a smear campaign against one of only a few people who ever cited James work? There's something disturbing going on here Jack and the issue is all yours.
If, like you claim in your part 2 podcast that it was this wiki page with Acharya's work on it citing James that offended you so much why not just have them removed from here instead of creating videos and podcasts full of libelous, defamatory and slanderous material instilling hatred of Acharya S and her work by inaccurately presenting her as an intellectually dishonest author? You certainly put a lot of energy into your smear campaign. It really looks like you have a chip on your shoulder just looking for a reason to launch a smear campaign against Acharya S, a woman. Or maybe you just have women issues.
A 2nd edition to "Christ Conspiracy" may be in the works. Maybe she'll leave "crack pot" James Churchward out completely and then, he'll be completely forgotten about. Then, you'll have to find someone else to harass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.240.236.20 (talk) 07:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
