Talk:James Brudenell, 7th Earl of Cardigan

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Contents 1 Reputation 2 number of men 3 Lord Haw-Haw 4 Lots missing 5 Dr Bloy 6 Lord Cardigan Courage

[edit] Reputation

I haven't read either of the cited books, but a TV doc I have seen suggests Raglan's orders which guns to attack (the ones to Cardigan's front or ones on the ridge) wasn't clear, & the messenger Raglan sent was disinclined to clarify, since he despised either Raglan or Cardigan (I don't recall which). Trekphiler 10:02, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

After the battle he was honoured by an audience with the queen, Albert and their children to explain his actions. I will be inserting this.--Old Moonraker 08:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

This point has been elaborated today in Charge of the Light Brigade. --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] number of men

I just saw on a TV program that there were 674 men present, not 668.

[edit] Lord Haw-Haw

Lord Haw-Haw says that this man was the first with that nickname. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.20.17.84 (talk) 09:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

I'm here to say the same thing. Lord Haw-Haw links here; can somebody who knows something about this gentleman either add the info to this article or, if it's incorrect, remove it from Lord Haw-Haw. --kingboyk 16:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lots missing

Like the 'Black Bottle' affair. Jooler 00:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Still working my way down the page. --Old Moonraker 09:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Inserted "black bottle"--Old Moonraker 11:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Bloy

I propose replacing the Dr Bloy citation (see here) with a direct quote from Woodham-Smith: Dr Bloy is both quoting from her (acknowledged) and paraphrasing her. It seems to be a case of good-faith use of an intermediate source. --Old Moonraker 11:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lord Cardigan Courage

The page seems to suggest that Lord Cardigan either fled, or behaved dishonorably during the Charge of the Light Brigade. This should be clarified, as all sources i have seen(The Crimean War, British Battle Series etc.) save this one, suggest that, while he, either mistakenly or deliberately misinterpreted the orders, was most courageous in carrying them out. e.g. He led from the front, as was proper, in at the time (at one point he reprimanded a young orderly for riding even with him), and he did indeed reach the objective and having taken the guns, turned back and rode back as calmly as he had rode forward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.191.170.226 (talk) 07:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The matter was controversial at the time. The evidence was carefully weighed in the libel trial against Cardigan's detractor, Calthorpe, and the conclusion (that he led the charge with "valour...conspicuously displayed", that he did reach the guns, but he did not take them and retired prematurely) seems the most balanced available. This is included in the article. --Old Moonraker 10:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)