Talk:Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts
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anyone else here from JP?
- I am. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 08:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, me too. I work with the Jamaica Plain Historical Society (www.jphs.org). -- Charlie Rosenberg 5:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Name
Wasn't Kuchamakin the regent for the young Chickatawbut? Kuchamakin wasn't actually sachem.
[edit] Lesbian Stuff
Ok, this needs a rewrite on the Lesbian areas. Most people have no idea what a "sapphist" is, it's not in any current use, and this isn't meant to be a public flyer for lesbians to move to JP. If for whatever reason it's another gay location, fine. However, don't start using subjective terms like "populist" and "funky" (especially not funky) to sell the neighborhood. This isn't Re/Max.
- MSTCrow 07:04, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- While I don't particularly see a probly with the word "Sapphist", I do agree about the advertisement tone of the paragraph. Not sure what to do about it, but I'll have a go. - WikidSmaht (talk) 08:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] History
My mother lived and worked in JP in the 60s and 70s, she saw hundreds of poor displaced families when the I-95 corridor was built. Can anyone elaborate on the socio-economic impact? -- WikidSmaht (talk) 08:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- Did they use block busting? Can't say I'm surprised, though, Boston isn't exactly the city on a shining hill.
- MSTCrow 07:23, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Green Line Controversy
Edited a line citing the MBTA "dragging its feet" to be more professional-sounding
Kether83 14:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Does this article seem a little slanted?
Parts of it seem negative (see discussion of gentrification), and hardly objective at all. Am i the only one who thinks this?
- No, the "so-called" professional, activist, and artist shit needs to go. matt kane's brain 16:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
GLad to hear it-- I'd hate to change something nobody else agreed on. I also think continually pointing out how the professionals and such are suburban-born is a little strange-- a huge chunk of the BOston area is suburban-born, and a huge chunk of every city in America is as well. It's part of how cities work. The comments on it in this article seem judgemental, and also irrelevant. Agree?
- Yeah. As an aside, it makes conversations easier to follow if you (a) sign your comments with ~~~~ and (b) You use a : to indicate a new section.
Ah, sorry, I'm new at this.--Philbars 19:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Indeed - I completely agree. Cwinder 10 March 2007
I see this page as needing some serious rewriting, inluding structural changes. As much as I'm interested in the beer brewery information, it's too long for an article this size. I don't recall any discussion of the importance of church parishes in JP - churches were a huge part of the social life of the community. The building of the train line - now the Amtrak line - is ignored. Some of the "sections" are two sentences long - not long enought to make a section worth while. I'll give it a try and propose some major changes. MarkinBoston 03:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the brewery section needed to be shortened. I think, however, you have made it too short. In one of your posts, you mentioned you were going to bring some of it back. Perhaps you haven't gotten to that, yet. Cwinder 21 August 2007 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 03:52, August 22, 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Major changes
I've made some major and minor changes to this page. My aim is to remove unnecessary detail, (all the bus lines) add relevant information (public libraries), remove POV type writing (the Great Streetcar Debate) and develop a proper history of dear old JP. I'm still working on the history - it will come soon. I hope the page reads a little clearer now as it is. More changes to come. MarkinBoston 20:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Monument photo added
I decided to try the monument photo at full size rather than thumbnailed. It's probably the most notable scene in Jamaica Plain, so I think it deserves the emphasis. I'll be adding more pictures, but I'll thumbnail them for economy. Comments welcome. MarkinBoston 20:51, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Colonial Era
I just added the Colonial Era section - I'll be following with with another similar section for the 19th century soon. MarkinBoston 00:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Revolution to Annexation
Added new section - more to come. MarkinBoston 02:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Messed up link
There's a link in the Name section that has a link that's showing the markup language. I don't know how that happened - it wasn't like that the last time I looked. Any explanation? MarkinBoston 04:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Fixed. MarkinBoston 19:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mary Baker Eddy & Forest Hills?
I was surprised to see Mary Baker Eddy listed as a notable resident. I thought I was familiar with all the places she lived. Is this a mistaken reference to her last residence at 400 Beacon Street in Chestnut Hill Brookline? clariosophic 03:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I think maybe she is buried at Forest Hills Cemetery - that's kind of a resident. :) Feel free to change it. MarkinBoston 05:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
No, she's buried at Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge. clariosophic 11:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I removed her name until someone comes up with a reference. MarkinBoston 14:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Added history section JP: Boston Neighborhood
It looks too big to me, but I left out a lot to get it down to that size. Hey, JP was a busy place in those years. It wouldn't kill me to see it edited down some. MarkinBoston 05:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding Urban Renewal Undo
I undid the Undo. I had integrated some of the information in the immediatly predeeding paragraphs. The section you replaced has two statements flagged for lack of citation, and the writing is not clear. Building were not torn down because the area was deemed blighted - there was nothing wrong with the housing in the area, it certainly wasn't a slum. My Aunt and Uncle lived in a house that was torn down on Everett St., so I knew it well. Any thing that is not included in the end of the previous section can be added to the Urban Renewal section - like the supermarket development on the Plant Shoe site and the festival without using Undo. MarkinBoston 02:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Plans
I've pretty well rewritten much of this page. I'm planning to take some text out of the "JP enters the 20th century" and put it in a new section for the mid-late 20th century. That will end the History section, and the "Present Day" section might get a few more lines. This may take a little time, because I'll have to get references for things like the Hispanic immigration to JP and the busing years. MarkinBoston 03:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] References in the History section
Please note: much of the information in the history sections is taken from a single source - the Local Attachments book that is cited multiple times. Anything not cited to another source can be assumed to be taken from that book. Citing it any more often withing the text would be overkill.MarkinBoston 16:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Need better Photos
MarkinBoston user:MarkedinBoston has made a valient effort to improve this entry. Overall, he has done an excellent job. Unfortunately, his photography skills / photo selections could be improved. There were some excellent, historic photos on this sight that have been removed and replaced with small, low quality, camera-phone-like snapshots. I would encourage him to repost some of those which have been removed and hope others will post high quality images that may not have appeared in the past or may have been lost. cwinder 23:44, 21 August 2007.
Each picture has its associated data on its page - none are "camera-phone" quality. Which pictures are you referring to? And which historic photos? MarkinBoston 22:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
