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Contents
- 1 Welcome!
- 2 LOL!!
- 3 Municipal elections
- 4 sif license
- 5 Re: Re: Pete carter AfD
- 6 LOL yet again.
- 7 Osism AFD
- 8 Prod
- 9 Lucky break...?
- 10 Removing deletation notices
- 11 good on ya mate
- 12 good to have a french speaker here
- 13 Robert P. Casey
- 14 Wikipedia Commons Voting ID
- 15 Community enforced mediation
- 16 Hectagon
- 17 Signpost updated for February 26th, 2007.
- 18 Requested pictures
- 19 Signpost updated for March 5th, 2007.
- 20 Thank you. I'll reconsider your offer of mediation
- 21 Signpost updated for March 12th, 2007.
- 22 Signpost updated for March 20th, 2007.
- 23 Signpost updated for March 26th, 2007.
- 24 WP:CEM
- 25 Signpost updated for April 2nd, 2007.
- 26 Signpost updated for April 9th, 2007.
- 27 WP:CEM case opens
- 28 Signpost updated for April 16th, 2007.
- 29 Signpost updated for April 23rd, 2007.
- 30 Signpost updated for April 30th, 2007.
- 31 Signpost updated for May 7th, 2007.
- 32 Mathematics CotW
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- 34 Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007.
- 35 Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007.
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[edit] Welcome!
Hello, JaimeLesMaths, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!
Also welcome to the mathematics wikiproject. You will probably want to add Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics to your watchlist which is where most discussion happen.
Finally nice one for your edits to Mathematical proof, the article could do with a lot of work and the whole set of related articles is quite disorganised. --Salix alba (talk) 08:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Fastest doggone mouse in the West! Thanks for the chuckle!
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[edit] Municipal elections
I thought of this possibility a while ago, but I think it's better to have them as separate articles (most of the time, at least). The 1995 Winnipeg article could be expanded quite extensively, for instance. CJCurrie 05:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] sif license
what should be fixed in order this page to be suitable? after all this is my license agreement and as such it has some value i think:) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ctalkep (talk • contribs) 05:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Re: Re: Pete carter AfD
Not a problem, it was, at worst, a very tiny violation of WP:AGF. But thanks for the followup! :) Xtifr tälk 20:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] LOL yet again.
Oh, that talk page is priceless! I think I'll leave it up just so I can get a laugh every once in a while. - Lucky 6.9 06:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Osism AFD
For the record, I did not delete the speedy tag when I added the prod tag,
Sorry, I should have written "supplanted by", not "replaced". --Calton | Talk 08:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I am wondering why you removed the prod you placed on tit tape. If you don't object, I am replacing the tag. Thanks! --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 02:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- OK... never mind, it appears to be a real product. I renamed it to lingerie tape. --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 02:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lucky break...?
Actually, I'm on self-imposed hiatus since I seem to be doing more new page patrolling and less editing which means more people whose articles I delete get to scream at me. :) - Lucky 6.9 23:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, the fun I've had cleaning them up before putting them away. This site can be such fun at times. - Lucky 6.9 23:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removing deletation notices
Are you going to remove all the deletion notices you put up then withdrew for the TMNT episodes beginning with The Christmas Aliens (TMNT 2003 Episode)? - Throw 23:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Crap, I thought the closing admin had done it. Sorry. Yeah, I'll get right on that. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] good on ya mate
for having math in your username! Mathmo 09:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] good to have a french speaker here
Salut JaimeLesMaths. Merci pour ton message sur la page d'aide :) Sympa ton profil :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Easyref (talk • contribs) 09:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC).
I appreciate your third opinion on the issue. I'm not entirely sure what you were recommending for the article, but if you'd be in favor of deleting the business about later elections on the grounds that it's OR and focusing more on the controversy itself than the abortion issue, then I think that's a fine resolution. However, I'm not entirely sure if the other editor and I are likely to reach a compromise as such. That said, he hasn't addressed the changes either way, except the one about whether abortion was mentioned vs. debated at the convention, so maybe he's OK with what you suggested and just didn't say so. In any case, I suspect that more discussion/help is needed. Croctotheface 18:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia Commons Voting ID
I assert that I voted in the Wikipedia Commons Picture of the Year 2006 under the IP address 65.217.70.163. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 04:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Community enforced mediation
- We're up to six trainees now with no actual requests for mediation yet. If you'd like to get some practice the Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal needs help. BTW with this many people it's easier to post general stuff to Wikipedia talk:Community enforced mediation/Requests. Please bookmark it and thanks for volunteering. Regards, DurovaCharge! 22:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I stand by what I said on the MedCabal page:
- The AFD is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hectagon. I see a large majority for Delete, redirect, or merge; there is no consensus for any one of these courses; but there is general agreement that we don't need this stub.
- The discussion at Talk:Tricosagon involved one other editor, and ended with my proposal to replace the redirect, so I see no reason to believe anyone but Nardman1 is interested in saving that stub as a separate article either.
- In addition, hectagon is a nonce-word, badly formed and rarely used, and when it is used it's a misspelling of hexagon or heptagon.
Therefore:
- The articles should stay redirects. Whether they should exist as stubs has already been discussed at the AfD.
- They were stubs, when not redirects; containing a dictionary definition, a diagram, and in one case, a factoid about Michelob.
- I don't care whether the diagrams go into Polygon; I'm not going to do it, because I don't think they add much; polygons of this number of sides look like circles.
- I dispute the defintions; I will dispute them if I see them anywhere on Wikipedia.
- The Michelob can is actually a prism; and the factoid is in Prism (geometry). It can stay there.
- Regards, Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I dispute, quite strongly, that hectagon is a real word; and I dispute that it means a 100-sided polygon; hect- exists only as an obsolete metric prefix, the Greek is hekaton. We should avoid it under WP:NEO. I dispute that tricontagon and its siblings are correctly spelled; it should be tricosagon, like icosagon. But as long as they are redirects (which is what I support) none of this matters. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Mathworld is only moderately reliable on mathematics (this has been discussed repeatedly on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics); he is not reliable at all on Greek. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- I have linked to a scholar.google.com search on hectagon above. It gets 21 results, all but one meaning hexagon, heptagon or octagon
- Searching for hectogon, with Weisstein, gets one result; that result is not by a native speaker of English, and reading it shows that this is also a misprint for octagon. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- For what he's worth, Weisstein uses triacontagon. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- I know nothing of the mathematics or the linguistics of it. I specialize in Wikipedia deletions. I respect Pmanderson's scholarship...in fact she's probably right...the hectagon article is misnamed. But I disagree about the redirects. There was no strong consensus at afd for merge or redirect. I also think tricosagon should remain a separate article, as at least one other editor wants the article to remain separate [1]. Nardman1 23:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- I see no evidence for this. Georgia guy's position was that if kept separate, it should be elsewhere; which may be right, but is not the same thing. Nor has he objected to the redirection. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm a process wonk myself; but the AfD's raw count, by my figures, is 21 delete, merge or redirect to 8 keeps + Coricus's keep or merge. That's 73%. This is as large a discussion on the subject as we are ever likely to have, and it is fairly good support for suppressing the articles. Since Nardman1 does not profess to evaluate the arguments behind the !votes, I do not see the grounds for taking out the redirects.
I see two actual keep arguments:
- Surely this can grow, which AfD has never received well; especially when (as here) without evidence.
- Let's save the pictures, because they look so much like circles.
Since I have no objection to putting the pictures into polygon, if Nardman1 wants to, what are we discussing? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Requested pictures
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[edit] Thank you. I'll reconsider your offer of mediation
Hello Jaime,
Thank you for offering to mediate in the Zeno's Paradox dispute.
As you may appreciate from reading my talk page and the relevant discussion page, I had considerable conflict from many opposing the introduction of basic concepts (argued by respected physicists) regarding the flagrant inapplicability of "geometric series" to solve Zeno's Paradoxes.
I concluded that Wikipedia was not of sufficient quality or merit to warrant more of my interest.
Unfortunately, it has been my advice to friends, colleagues and professional academics (subsequent to my -- what became an -- inert mediation request) that Wikipedia is a "rubbish site" -- it has proved deficient in intellectual rigour and is, in my opinion, unsuitable for professional interest or involvement.
However ... I'll consider what you have to say ... perhaps I was wrong in my judgement and did not allow sufficient time for the relevant editing processes (your mediation) to work.
Best regards, Steaphen 02:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have re-opened the case. Hopefully we can find an equitable resolution. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 01:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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- What is the status of this case? (watchlisted you) --Ideogram 02:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I e-mailed Steaphen and left talk page messages, but got no response. Only one person has commented on the mediation page, and that was a week ago. There are clearly some issues on the article talk page, and the article failed a Good Article review and was demoted. {{fact}} flags have sprouted all over the article lead. In short, nothing is getting resolved. I'm not going to force mediation down anyone's throat, so, if nothing happens by Sunday evening, I'm going to re-close the case for lack of interest, which is a shame because this article has issues that are totally resolvable if everyone would just listen to each other and be open to compromise. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 19:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Jaime, thank you for offering to mediate. I did not receive your notification (the email address I assigned to Wikipedia was getting a lot of Spam, so I discontinued the account).
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- I reviewed the mediation page and noted the comment that I "sprout" ... ideas in QM which have nothing to do with an engineer's world? (Try telling Intel engineers that "fact"). Once again, many engineers may indeed use classical mathematical models to work solutions, but they are not able to be validated on quantum scales. Such models clearly cannot be used to resolve Zeno's Paradoxes. In time, this will become increasingly obvious. Geometric series are simply not able to explain the movement of an arrow as it traverses the finer (quantum) scales of movement.
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- As a result of the irrational intransigence over this topic, I have lost any further interest in dialogue at this site. I've returned here, as a courtesy to you, and to thank you for your efforts. I will say this: I will use the material at Wikipedia as a case study in fear and avoidance. As a writer I expect I'll be showing the parallels between religious fear and ignorance in Galileo's time and current fear regarding Zeno's Paradoxes. They are remarkable examples of how people can become embedded in dogmatic systems of belief, even though there is glaringly obvious experimental evidence to show the current belief system is invalid. I think the lesson I have learned is that without providing a new congruent system of belief, people --despite the clear irrationality of doing so-- will hold on to what deep world-view beliefs they have, and, if history is a guide, will fight to the death to hold those beliefs (or will kill others who might undermine those beliefs if they do so without offering a more congruent world-view).
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- ps. Rest in peace, Galileo. Who can blame you for recanting after seeing what they did to Giordano.
- Steaphen 23:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Mathematics CotW
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[edit] Signpost updated for April 7th, 2008.
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[edit] Signpost updated for April 14th, 2008.
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[edit] Signpost updated for April 21st, 2008.
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[edit] Signpost updated for May 2nd and 9th, 2008.
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[edit] Signpost updated for May 12th, 2008.
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[edit] Signpost updated for May 19th and 26th, 2008.
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[edit] Signpost updated for June 2, 2008.
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