User talk:Jahangard

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[edit] Tajik grammar

You have changed the -ro example a couple of times. This example is trying to explain the purpose of the '-ro' suffix. I understand it is used as kind of a marker for 'specific object', e.g. translating into English as that. If this is not the case could you outline the use on the talk page so we can come up with a better example? - FrancisTyers · 19:05, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Tg

Well, you don't have to add a tajik tag to every page you come by.  QuizQuick  02:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? it's not a tag. It's the interwiki to Tajiki Wikipedia and it should be on every page which has a corresponding Tajiki page. Jahangard 14:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Persian or Tajik or even Azeri?

Hello Jahangard!

Why did you remove the word Tajik where it was follower Persian and Tajik poet. Is it because Azeri Tusi lived in Tus in Iran?

What about Rudaki? Is he still Persian poet? He was was born in Panjrud-modern Panjakent. So I am going to add Tajik to this article.

--Isfara 07:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I haven't edited Rudaki. About Homam Tabrizi and Azari Tusi, they were not Tajik. Persian-speaking people who live in west of Iranian plateau are not called Tajik. This word is used for those who live in Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan. Jahangard 15:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi Jahangard,

Please don't make unilateral changes (like this) until there some sort of consensus at Talk:Persian people. Such changes will only get people annoyed. I hope you understand—thanks. —Khoikhoi 18:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree that moving the page Persian people needs some sort of consensus at Talk:Persian people. But, I don't think that it includes changing a redirect page (like Persians) to a disambiguation page. Anyway, I'll wait for the result of the discussion. Jahangard 18:36, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but Persians has been a redirect since January. How about we create Persians (disambiguation) and then link at the top of the Persian people article? (compare to the dog page) —Khoikhoi 18:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is "main inhabitants of Iran" misleading? It's true, they account 51% of Iran's population. Of course not all of them are from Iran, but that's where they're originally form. Just like Turks in Germany are originally form Turkey. How's this? —Khoikhoi 18:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I haven't said that the majority of Iranians are not Persian-speaking. The current article Persian people is about all Persian-speaking people (not only Persian-speaking people of Iran). Refering to them as main inhabitants of Iran is misleading. Persian-speaking people of Afghanistan and Tajikistan are not originally form Iran (modern-day Iran). They are not just like Turks in Germany are originally form Turkey. Jahangard 18:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok, how's "the ethnic group mainly found in Iran"? (because most Persians live in Iran) Any objections? —Khoikhoi 18:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
What's wrong with "Persian-speaking people"? That article is about Persian-speaking people, and nothing but Persian-speaking people. Jahangard 19:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Because most sources tell us that "Persian-speaking people" are called Persians. —Khoikhoi 19:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, and many sources tell us that People of Iran (Persia) are called Persians. That's why we need titles which are not ambiguous. Jahangard 19:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Ever since 1979, the vast majority of English sources call the country "Iran". We are not living in the past anymore. —Khoikhoi 19:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
But we use sources from the past. Jahangard 19:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but when things are out-of-date, we use modern ones. —Khoikhoi 19:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thank you

thank you for creating Taloqan. there are a number of other Afghan related articles that are not yet created. visit Wikipedia:Requested articles/Afghanistan if you want to see a list of other desired Afghan articles. Kingturtle 01:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Garmis and Civil War in Tajikistan

Alright, I've left a comment at each of the talk pages. Please let me know what you think. Khoikhoi 04:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Jahangard, I think I was a bit mean and uncivil in our exchange over this. I apoligize. Thanks for removing the disputed tag. Hope there are no hard feelings.--David Straub 05:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template fix

Thanks for the speedy fix! It looks a heck of a lot better now. Aelfthrytha 12:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WPTJ

It might be worth making a note at Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia, or co-ordinating our efforts there. I'm not sure there are enough people to make a whole WPTJ now, but maybe in the future. And yes, with enough people I would certainly be interested. - Francis Tyers · 21:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd be interested, but wikipedia just got banned again in China. It will be difficult for me to make regular contributions to wikipedia again in the future.--David Straub 11:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Persian people

Hi! I have no objections, it looks fine to me. Ba’adan mibinamet. Khoikhoi 02:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, maybe we should follow the definitions from other sources, like this for example. What do you think? Khoikhoi 22:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
That page is not usefull for us (it's just a disambiguation page and we have a more complete disambiguation page here). Also, you should note that websites such as http://www.thefreedictionary.com and http://www.answers.com/ jus copy whatever they find (mostly pages of Wikipedia). Because of that, their content is almost the same as Wikipedia (with a delay). Jahangard 03:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Khoikhoi 03:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmm

Difficult one. While I can understand their point of view (it isn't worth having a stub type for only a few articles), I think this is more of a problem of systemic bias rather than "not enough" (e.g. I'm certain there are over 60 notable Tajiks). Perhaps we should just get on creating Tajik people stubs until we have enough for a category? - Francis Tyers · 08:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It isn't a personal attack, but it is uncivil, and he is abusing the term vandalism. - Francis Tyers · 09:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hardly. If you check that page you will see that - Quote: Edits which cause a template to display improperly are not vandalism if the mistake was unintentional. The first time this edit was made, it was not vandalism. nce it had been explained that the edit was causing the template to do something different to what was intended, a revert could easily be construed as vandalism, which is exactly what I said. it was only when it happened a further time after this warning that I decided that it could be covered by the term vandalism. As to my lack of civility, for that I apologise, though I was severely provoked by some fairly uncivil words myself beforehand. Grutness...wha? 11:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, we got the desired result, they're going to create the category. - Francis Tyers · 11:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tajik alphabet

The reason I removed it was because the formatting is screwed up in my browser. I suspect it might be something to do with the 'RTL' templates, so I'll try removing those. - Francis Tyers · 09:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mazandaran is Shahnama

Hello and thanks for your care!

But please note that mazandaran was have a different status as you refer to kabulistan, since mazandaran was stated as the independent state, Please take a look into the shahnama, Thank you ! --Ali 14:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Provinces of Tajikistan

Could you take a look at this? I'm not sure what the missing regions referred to are, but if we complete Tajikistan, there will be no more requested provinces articles for Central Asia - you're my best hope because I sure don't know anything about it. Aelfthrytha 16:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two Articles in need of your attention

There are two entries at Wikipedia, which have falsely created -- they are Turco-Persian and Turko-Persian Tradition. Both entries are factitious. I have requested the entries to be deleted. My reasons are:

The term Turko-Persian Tradition (or Turco-Persian) does not exists academically and it is a factitious entry! Check the Encyclopaedia Iranica to confirm -- The correct name for that culture is the Persianate culture not the "Turko-Persian". Turkophones (mostly of mixed race and Persianized in culture) only spoke in Turkic dialects and were in the military. That is not enough participation in creating and forming the culture to deserve the name "Turko-Persian Tradition" – This is misinformation. All the elements in that area, which have to do with tradition and culture, were drawn from the Iranian culture (Persian, Kurdish, Azari, Baluchi, Tajik, Luri, Gilaki, Talishi, Mazandarani, etc.), and the Islamic faith, not much Turkic elements (like shamanism, yurts etc.) were incorporated in. That is what makes the name "Turko-Persian" an imaginary one and therefore the entry should be deleted.

Any contributions would greatly appreciated. Bā Sepās Surena 02:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Dear Jahangard,

Thank you a lot for the Barnstar. I will try my best to follow your point about the pronounciation. Ba sepaas e faravaan. Sangak 14:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I've just glanced through the Book you sent me. It's fantastic! Many thanks. Sangak 17:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there any difference between the way Tajiks of Afghanistan pronounce words and the way people of Tajikistan do?Sangak 18:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It's very similar. The only difference is in transliterating "ā" (In Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, they transliterate it as "o" and in Afghanistan, they transliterate it as "a"). This difference is more related to the transliteration tradition, rather than the pronounciation. But, in transliterating های ناملفوظ, the difference between Tajiks and Persians of Iran is really related to the pronounciation (its original pronounciation is "a", similar to what Tajiks pronounce). Jahangard 22:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dari's article

There's already a Disputed tag in the subsection of History: Opinions about Dari's Emergence. Why another tag in the same section under History? The disputed point is in "Opinions about Dari's Emergence" section, and it already has a tag. Please don't put another one.Ariana310 19:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Consensus

Doosteh Aziz, your input will be appreciated on other sections of Iran article's consensus as well: Talk:Iran#Consensus

Best Regards, - Marmoulak 03:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tajik alphabet

Thanks for the info. What do you think about my discussions with Francis? Was I wrong ? I think he thought that I am pushing for Iranian pov or Muslim pov. I tried to convince him that I have no such interests. I think we just misunderstand eachother due to cultural differences. What the average people in Tajikistan think? Do you have Koran in Cyrilic alphabet as well ? Take care. Sangak 20:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Jahangard. Take care. Sangak 21:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
By the way, thanks for your trieless efforts on maintaining articles. I wish there were more communications between wikipedians of Afghanistan and Iran. Sangak 21:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Interesting! I didn't know that there is also a Tajik Cyrrilic alphabet which differs from the regular Cyrrilic alphabet! It seem I am terribly ignorant of this subject! Ba sepaas Sangak 08:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for correcting the transliteration. The article is under peer review, in case you are interested to comment on it. Take care.Sangak 18:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transliteration: Kiarostami

Salam!

Please see the ongoing discussion on the correct transliteration of Abbas Kiarostami. Thanks Sangak 11:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Please see also [1]. We need to change the WP:MoS for Persian transliteration. Sangak 12:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Let's make a guideline: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian) / WP:MOS-PE. Sangak 12:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I copy/pasted the Arabic guideline to my user:page. let's work here first and then propose it. User:Sangak/Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian)

Sangak 12:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Some one suggested using Mackenzie’s transliteration as our guideline. Please see User:Sangak/Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian) and let's solve this problem in a proper way. Having such guideline is important and I clearly feel it now as I am nominating my work for Featured article assessment. Unfortunately I know almost nothing about transliterations otherwise I would help more. Take care. Sangak 10:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
User_talk:ParthianShot have added the Mackenzie’s transliteration in User:Sangak/Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian). regards Sangak 08:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Notability of Shabnam Surayo

A tag has been placed on Shabnam Surayo, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. RJASE1 Talk 02:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


Please do not remove speedy deletion notices, as you did with Shahrom Abubakr. Please use the {{hangon}} template on the page instead if you disagree with the deletion. Thank you. RJASE1 Talk 02:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Afghan musicians

I added information on a few Afghan singers under the Afghan musicians category. Can you please go through them and add any additional information that you may know about singers of Afghanistan or make any upgrades. Thanks....NeutralWriter

[edit] Bidel Dehlavi

Please see my note on User:Ariana's page [2]. Sangak 08:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I arranged our discussions in here. Both of us (me and Ariana) are going a bit emotional. So I think it is better that others continue this discussion. Hope it will come to a conclusion in future. Thanks. Sangak 12:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subdivisions of Iran

The reason I asked about it is simple: the category keeps growing, but there are no divisions except the 30 provinces. To make a new stub category there should be at least 65 stubs. I'm not sure any one province will have enough, so I suspect the category will just keep growing out of control for a while. Aelfthrytha 02:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami was promoted to FA!

Thanks for helping me with transliteration! Take care. Sangak Talk 13:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: I am happy that people accepted my invitation for making WP:MOS-PE. Sangak Talk 13:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou for helping on Bahram Bayzai. I needed to get around to copy editing and referencing but I see you have helped already -I hope the info is useful ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 15:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ali Reza Askari

Hi, I noticed you moved the page Ali Reza Askari to Ali-Reza Askari, and I was curious why you did that. I was actually thinking that it should be moved to Ali Reza Asgari, as that seems to be the spelling that the media is now using. Joshdboz 16:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Faranbazu

I've warned him for personal attacks; please let me know if he persists. Khoikhoi 01:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

Can you please move Shabnam Suraya under Shabnam Surayo. I don't know how to. Thanks :)

[edit] Tat

Hey, check out these articles: Juhuri language, Tats, Mountain Jews. Just pointing them out in case you didn't see them. :-) Cheers, Khoikhoi 19:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Language versus Dialect

According to Schmit and all other linguistic sources on Iranian languages (Ethnologue, etc.), Judeo-Kermani or Judeo-Golpaygani are not dialects of Persian. Persian is a Southwest Iranian language, Judeo-Kermani or Judeo-Golpaygani are Northwest Iranian languages in the Central Group. So therefore they are not dialects of Persian. Azalea pomp 01:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The CLI does not have page numbers for the main sections so you will have to look at 4.1.2.2. As well, since the linguistic divisions of Iranian are not really disputed, can you give me a source that has these languages as Persian dialects? Azalea pomp 01:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
The Jewish (and Zoroastrian) languages of Central Iran are always of the Northwest grouping even in larger cities. So in Esfahan, Yazd, and Kerman, the Muslims speak a dialect of Persian (Southwest), while the Jews and Zoroastrians speak a Northwest language. Judeo-Shirazi is a Persian dialect though. Azalea pomp 02:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Googoosh

Can you please revert the changes by the vandal from some unidentified IP on Googoosh's page and put a protection on it so he can't edit it. I have been trying to rewrite the article to standard format and he keeps reverting it, not even letting me finish the article. Thanks...NeutralWriter 16:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rumi

Salam. I nominated Rumi as a Good article and 0.7 release version of WP. As a reviewer of Ga Wikiproject I reviewed it informally and wrote my viewpoint and also explain what should be done to to reach GA criteria. We need your help .--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 17:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rumi - Moving/changing Article!

Dear Sir, Madam, I am speaking to the person who likes to decide and evaluate the importance of "Artists Articles" on Wikipedia, even though he/she clearly states in the first summery change; “Not sure whether this page is OK or not,…” Please take a moment and ask your self, whether you should make a change with on this page or not? Peace —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rumifan (talk • contribs) 20:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] The New Central Asia project page

Hi

I revised (a bit radically) the navigation system of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia. The old page was a mess. You are a member of the project, I would appreciate if you would compare with the old page and give a feedback on the talk page.I am asking this because an old member of the project expressed concerns. Thanks. cs 22:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: About your map on the "languages of Afghanistan"

Yes, thanks for pointing that out. This map was only intended to be used for a day or two because we were expecting to get another map. But we didn't get the other map so now I fixed it. Here it is:

. Thanks again. --Behnam 01:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Names

Can you please use the correct language template and specify which language it is? I haven't reverted any of them but they seem out of place all by themselves. By the way, I haven't understood the point of these edits [3] [4]. Why did you combine the characters? I am just curious and thought that they were seperate because there was an intonation in that syllable. But again, my Arabic is rusty.. :) Baristarim 06:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, no worries about the alphabet. I think the template is {{lang-ota}}.. Cheers! Baristarim 06:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: Tajiks on wikicommons

Sorry about that. I added some more pictures there and now put the link to Tajiks on Commons back. Here it is now http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tajiks. And thanks for making that category on Commons. --Behnam 03:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian ق

Do you know if for Persian if there is ever an allophone of [q] (voiceless uvular stop) for ق ? The Writing Systems of the World has it as a possible pronunciation, but I don't think it had an example. Azalea pomp 01:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, so [qorʔɒn] would be the Kermani Persian for قران ? Azalea pomp 03:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes. [quːriː] (teapot) and [ɣuːrbɒqe][quːrbɒɣe] (frog) are better examples (because they are not Arabic). Jahangard 04:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the examples. Azalea pomp 04:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Double-redirects

As you've changed the name of the Nowruz article, please don't forget to fix the tens of double redirect articles to point to the new article. Regards, -- Jeff3000 19:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Was there a clear consensus before you moved the page? --Rayis 00:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nowruz

I think it would be better if you started a poll, like the one outlined here. Based on the fact that you've been reverted by multiple people, and that there's no consensus for the title "Nowruz" just yet, I think we can classify this as a controversial move. Even if it's not controversial, there is no doubt that it's "possibly controversial". Try following the steps at WP:RM. Khoikhoi 22:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree that people should participate in the discussion, but that doesn't stop the fact that people have still been reverting you. If you can get everyone to agree with you, then WP:RM won't be necessary. I have no problem with you changing the title as long as you have consensus. Khoikhoi 00:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] page moves

Please note that a lot of the scientist who you renamed are (despite being of Persian origin) always referred to by their Arabic name in scholarly literature. Please do not move those pages again. Your translation scheme is also non-standard, please do not mass move pages without discussion and putting some more thought in it. Cheers, —Ruud 18:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

There is not much difference in their Persian and Arabic names. Most of the page moves that I've done wasn't just because of "al". About the transliteration, even if you follow WP:AMOS, you shouldn't use the strict transliteration in the titles. Jahangard 05:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
The fact that you dare to claim Jamshid Kashani is a more common transcription than Jamshīd al-Kāshī clearly shows you have no familiarity with the literature published on the history of mathematics. Please do not move those article back. There is no rule against using macrons in article titles, we avoid underdots and halfrings because they cause display issues for some users. —Ruud 16:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
About the literature on Jamshid Kashani, a search on books.google.com shows that "Jamshid Kashani" and "Jamshid al-Kashi" have almost the same frequencies in English books. A search on the web shows that "Jamshid Kashani" is more common that "Jamshid al-Kashi" (1220 compared to 504). About the macrons, WP:AMOS is the relevant guideline here and it says "A strict transliteration should generally not be used". I should also remind you that saying "The fact that you dare to claim Jamshid Kashani is a more common transcription than Jamshīd al-Kāshī clearly shows you have no familiarity with the literature published on the history of mathematics" is an example of personal attack. Jahangard 17:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Replied at my talk page. —Ruud 18:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I have every right to questing the method you use make editorial decisions. That is not a personal attacks, so don't use that as an excuse to avoid justifying that method. Even Google Books (the results of which you should also never blindly trust) returns 4 results for "jamshid kasani" and 23 for "jamshid al-kashi". WP:AMOS is controversial, disputed, written by someone with a not so good understanding of the issues of Arabic transcription and transliteration, and certainly not with the usage of biographies on historical mathematicians in mind. For article naming you should not even refer to that page but to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Arabic) instead, which because of the before mentioned reasons was never promoted to guideline. —Ruud 23:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, about Kashani, I accept that it's not as common as al-Kashi, but nonetheless, it is used in the literature and it should be mentioned in the introduction (along with its original Persian script). About your comment on WP:AMOS, it is a guideline. If you do not like it, mention your objections in the corresponding talk page. Jahangard 23:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
As you undoubtedly know a single Arabic name can be permuted in many, many ways. However, given an accurate transliteration of the full Arabic name it quite trivial to infer that his name was Jamshid Kashani in Persian. You text adds clutter, not useful information. (The image of the Iranian stamp also explicitly mentions his name as Jamshid Kashani in a much more elegant way) —Ruud 00:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Remember that while you might feel that this great Persian mathematician deserves to have his name displayed in his native script it means little to the average English reader, and the clutter it adds only distracts value from his article. —Ruud 00:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contemporary history of Iran

Salam. Do you agree on making a wikiproject or at least a task force (like this)about Contemporary history of Iran which includes issues science 1900. Please write your idea in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Iran#Contemporary_history_of_Iran--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 16:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unilateral move

I left User:Ruud Koot a message on his talk page about this issue [5], but he never reposned. Perhaps we should take the issue to the talk page of the article. --Mardavich 16:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I replied t my talk page. —Ruud 17:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Perhaps...

Rudd has a point about new terminology, your suggestion is a bit long too, perhaps we should request a move back to "Islamic mathematics" which is the most appropriate terminology anyways. --Mardavich 23:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ruud

Yes, I would consider them to be personal attacks. They're definitely ad hominems for sure. Khoikhoi 05:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carmen Amaya

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in Carmen Amaya. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Valrith 20:48, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

About linking to Youtube, WP:EL clearly says "There is no blanket ban on linking to these sites as long as the links abide by these guidelines. See also Wikipedia:Copyrights." (those clips of Amaya are old and there is no copyvio). Having a link to some short videos of her dance improves the quality of that article. Calling that link an "spam" is quite inapropriate. Jahangard 22:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] location maps

Would you consider dual licensing your edits to {{location map}} and related template under the cc-by 2.5? This way I could use them on the english wikinews. Happy editing. Bawolff 00:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Districts vs. Geogaphy of Tajikistan

Hi - I'd like to remove the category "geography of Tajikistan" from the districts and provinces categorized there because they are already categorized under "districts of Tajikistan" which (presumably) includes geography. Would that change be okay with you? Aelfthrytha 05:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, take a look at the Tajikistan geography templates - I changed the dots and I think that although it's a minor change, it looks much better. Tell me what you think! Aelfthrytha 05:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please add a non-ugly Nasta'liq .svg image of فارسی

I would love to see a non-ugly Nasta'liq .svg image of فارسی. Please add one. –jonsafari 17:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Users can already see فارسی in Naskh, in several different places in the article. The infobox image puts on a pretty face for the name of the language, like the Arabic article using the Kufic script, or the Japanese article using a calligraphic style. Given the historically important relationship between Nasta'liq and Persian, it would be nice to have the infobox picture in that style. If you can scan an image of a quality hand-written Nasta'liq form of فارسی (into a black & white .png or .gif), then I can convert it to .svg . –jonsafari 17:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needs Persian

Hi, can you add Persian to Khoresht? Badagnani 05:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Also Gheimeh. Badagnani 05:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

And Chelow kabab. Badagnani 06:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! One more question: in the Fesenjan article, it mentions "polo" and "chelo" but does not say what they are. Can you tell me what these words mean? Badagnani 18:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for this information.

Can you add Persian for Abnabat and Pashmak? Badagnani 23:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Also Qottab and Reshteh. Badagnani 23:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

And Barareh and Sangak. Badagnani 23:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spice question

Hi, I'm working on the Advieh article and discovered via a Flickr user in Iran that there is a type of advieh called "seven layer advieh." He doesn't know the English names of the seven component spices. Can you perhaps translate them?

  1. Zard-choobeh زرد چوبه
  2. Felfel-Siah فلفل سیاه
  3. Felfel-ghermez فلفل قرمز
  4. Zanjebil زنجبیل
  5. Ghalamfor قلمفر
  6. Darchin دارچین
  7. Jooz جوز Badagnani 23:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
1-Turmeric, 2-Black pepper, 3-Red pepper, 4-Ginger, 5-Clove (it's qaranfol) 6-Cinnamon, 7-Nutmeg (probably) Jahangard 01:29, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

A thousand thanks. It's interesting that there's no rose petal powder in there, which I thought was necessary for advieh. Badagnani 03:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Should Advieh-e-polo and Advieh-e-khoresh have a hyphen between the second and third words? I see that Ash-e anar does not, and wondered if those should follow the same pattern. Badagnani 03:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shahrom Abubakr

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[edit] Zoroastrian languages

You may be unaware that there is more than one language or ethnolect spoken by Zoroastrian remnant communities in Iran. Parsi-Dari is spoken by some 350,000, Dari (Zoroastrian) is spoken by some 8,000 to 15,000. A note on Ethnologue says: Many Zoroastrians speak Parsi-Dari and do not know Zoroastrian Dari. "Gabri", "Gabar" and "Yazdi" are derogatory names. --Bejnar (talk) 18:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ethnologue is just a collection of information from different sources. Sometimes it cites its sources, sometimes it doesn't. Credibility of those Ethnologue entries which dos not cite any source is not more than the credibility of unreferenced Wikipedia pages. In this special case, claiming that there is an ethnolect, related to Zoroastrians, spoken by 700000 speakers, is just nonsense. the whole population of Zoroastrians is less than 100000. There is an ethnolect of Zoroastrians (near Yazd and Kerman) which is called Dari (also called Gabroni, Gabri), belonging to the northwestern Iranian dialects (central subgroup). It's more probable that Enthnologue has mistakenly mixed this information with something else and has ended with pure nonsense. If you insist on these claims, cite a reliable academic source (something such as "Compendium Linguarum Iranicarum", edited by Rüdiger Schmitt). Jahāngard 16:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please help with your skill

Please visit the Sima Mafiha page and help to extend the article. I found little info about her. I am afraid that she could be forgotten at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faikpro (talk • contribs) 01:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nowruzetan Piruz

سلام برادر، نوروزتان پیروز باد Salam Baradar, Nowruzetaan Piruz Baad. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)