Talk:Jagged Alliance 2

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[edit] Article Created

I know it's a little bit basic at the moment, but I hope we can improve it in pretty short order, and keep it free of game advice and POV into the bargain. This game really does deserve its own article, and a good one at that. Geoff B 12:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Needs a Section about the different mods released, also the critical acclaim it received. Needs to talk about its general open ended gameplay and random item location which gives it tons of replay value. Needs to be known that even after 8 years it is still available for purchase on Steam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daedalus779 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Be bold and contribute! Geoff B 22:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stub

Someone needs to add a stub tag to this article. I would, but I don't know how. 63.215.29.111 02:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New external links not welcome?

I added an external link to a page I created, twice. It has been undone twice (by SharkD). My page is very informative, relevant to the game, and has no advertising whatever. Are additions of external links completely unwelcome? Fadden0 15:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does have an external links policy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links, however I think Shark D may have been a bit hasty in removing the link to your page. It looks like it's a decent resource. Even if it's not a reliable source per Wikipedia's criteria, it's still informative and useful and is acceptable, I think. Geoff B 15:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I think that external links are more suitable to be placed on DMOZ or an external wiki than the Wikipedia article itself. SharkD 01:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm misstaken on this to begin with, but this article held lots of external links previously, right? It was what got me on the ja galaxy forums where a lot of the actual acitvity of the community is at nowadays, and even more, hooked me up with the v.1.13 mod. I'm not sure i'd still be playing it if it wasn't for that, months later. It's relevant and even more so USEFUL to anyone already familiar with the game looking for ways back in, or people getting to know it. I go to wikipedia to find these sorts of things, if i'd come to this article back then, i'd just closed the window. One small little stack of extra links, how does that hurt anyone when it's true to the purpose and extremely, again, useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.230.80.22 (talk) 01:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

No, this article never had many external links listed. SharkD (talk) 02:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Gotta disagree with you SharkD. Many articles on Wiki will have links to the community for the game in question and I don't believe it should be any different for Jagged Alliance 2. Given the age of the game and that many of the related community sites may have already folded, it's important to have at least one link to the active elements of the community. IMHO (Bobbo9000 (talk) 00:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC))

Wikipedia has a policy in this regard, WP:EL. Generally, links need to be of an encyclopdic nature that provide further information on the topic. Discussion forums don't count. The site formerly listed, but removed (and discussed at top), is rather encyclopedic, which I overlooked at first glance. However, it doesn't meet the criteria of "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons.", as the material itself would violate WP:GAMEGUIDE, which leaves me confused as to whether it should be included. Generally, I think these sorts of links should be reserved for DMOZ (as users could easily pollute the list with lots of similar links). This site in particular could easily be integrated into JA Galaxy's database. If you have trouble getting these sites listed at DMOZ, then that's a strike against its usefulness. SharkD (talk) 02:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I notice that GameFaqs (which offers similar information) isn't linked to in many articles. I distinctly remember GameFaqs links being removed from several articles. Here is an example of a GameFaqs link being removed from a featured article candidate. SharkD (talk) 02:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I've started a discussion on this topic here at WikiProject Video games. Make sure and check back on it once the discussion has continued for a bit. SharkD (talk) 02:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

At least some mention of the Bear's Pit Forum should be added to this article if not a direct link. This site is by far the most informative on the subject (as far as English language sites go) so it would be shortsighted not to at least mention Bear's Pit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khor1255 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gameplay Section

The gameplay section of the article could really use a concise summary at the top of the section. Arguably, it's too detailed at the moment. Indisputably, it needs copy editing really badly.

There is also nothing in the gameplay section that suggests this game is in the spirit of 4X (Where are the expand or exploit mechanics?). It seems to fit squarely in the Tactical role-playing game genre, so I've tweaked the intro paragraph to reflect that. --Daeval (talk) 22:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, as for the Expand and Exploit mechanics:
1) Expand: you start in Omerta and gradually take over sectors until you reach Meduna and complete the game.
2) Exploit: you conquer mines that periodically infuse your account with funds, as well as providing a two-time bonus of silver ore. SharkD (talk) 00:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mercenary Section

Due to how different the mercenary characters are, I could put in all of them and a brief note on each, but not if it were to be removed at a later point. Any words on that before I start writing would be great. I already added in the different traits/etc of the mercs. Gomoker (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)