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[1]The New Help Site —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pureshadowdotcom (talk • contribs) 22:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)



The Jagex corporate site says that Jagex was founded in December 2001, but according to archive.org, records show entries dating back to November 1999. Also, I don't think that Constant Tedder was in Jagex at the time. (Ian Gower and Rob Law were also prominent staff members since the development of RuneScape, I think). --Ixfd64 04:05, 2004 Aug 14 (UTC)

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[edit] Protection

I've protected this article since it's been vandalized from people anons coming from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sythe.org most likely. I must say though, the name of this company sounds like some medication being marketed from that old military lawyer show on CBS. Karmafist 23:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Game descriptions

Would some short info on what the games all are be useful? OneWeirdDude 18:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it could be usefull, the games are not large enough to deserve their own pages, so info about them should go here, IMHO - Redmess 15:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

I've removed this tag as this article seems good quality now and I could not find any specific errors and there was no mention of it on the talk page. SandBoxer 22:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong Info

The info you guys got seems wrong in one place. Jagex's Corporate Site says that over 5000 subscribed in the first week, not 100. Just though I'd let everyone know before I changed it. Richard x 23:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

There is more wrong info in the current amount of players for RuneScape, but I mentioned it already on the talkpage of RuneScape. - Redmess 15:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew Gower

Why does 'Andrew Gower' redirect here? There should be more information about Andrew, he deserves an article of his own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.183.157 (talk • contribs)

I agree totally... I will research some info and hopefully make that page. --MasterEagle 05:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I made a page on Andrew Gower with a lot of information about him before he made Jagex. Go check it. :) ~ rih29 21:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JAGeX

I find that a lot of times, Jagex is not spelled "Jagex", but instead is spelled JAGeX. It also appears like this in the picture.--Death motor 20:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I suggest we keep the official spelling, and change the unofficial spelling accordingly. - Redmess 15:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It is JaGeX, standing for Java Gaming Experts.

The name is an acronym, thus should it not be named JAGeX? Various other acronymned pages have capital letters, take for example ROM. Floating Banana 06:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, their logo is JaGEx (or JAGex, or whatever), but they themselves call themselves Jagex, if you look at some stuff of theirs, they call themselves Jagex. Runescape Wiki also says this, and I checked after they told me that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.26.233 (talk) 01:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Euros?

At the bottem of the article there is a note saying that it costs 3.20 Euros ($5.00 USD) to become a member... This must be false because JAGeX dosn't do runescape in Europe apart from the UK and we use pounds... Also 1 Euro roughly equils 1 USD

i woudn't kno anything about pounds, euros x-cept USD. it does cost 5.00 USD 2 become a member --jesusfreek2 05:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean they "don't do RuneScape in Europe"? I live in Canada, and I can play the game fine and pay for membership in my own currency through PayByCash's affiliation with Jagex. Also, I quickly ran a currency exchange check on $5 USD, and it returned to be €3.92, so it's not that close to roughly being a 1:1 ratio. Agentscott00(talk) 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
...And me living in Norway, I also pay just fine in Norwegian Kroner. However, the amount varies as the currencies do. Every month the amount of NOK I pay equals 5 USD. Clq 05:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holiday Events

There is no information describing previous holiday events, which should be added in —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.251.52.93 (talk • contribs) .

Keep in mind this article is about the company behind RuneScape, not the game itself. For ingame content, see the RuneScape article and its other subarticles. They will have what you're looking for. Agentscott00(talk) 02:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image of the Jagex team?

Where's the image? There's just a broken link there, but I remember seeing a fairly good image earlier. Did it get deleted or something? Anyway, we should either fix the link, get a new image, or delete the broken link, caption, and box it's in. Pyrospirit Talk Contribs 15:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


Yeah I'm pretty angry, I uploaded it and now its not in the Wiki Commons anymore... worst of all, I have no idea why.--Surfaced 05:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, there's a "free replacement available". Bull, if you ask me. The company has *no* other pictures available, and those that they have are not publicly accessible. I'll re-add it with a better fair-use message. AScott00 22:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

Should this article include criticism of JAGeX? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.197.170.118 (talk) 05:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

So long as its published information and notable, then sure. --Notmyhandle 06:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date?

If memory recalls, Jagex has been around since 1999. At the bottom of the RuneScape main page, it says "1999-2007". I also remember it being around then. I'm going to change the founding to 1999. ~ rih29 23:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Rih, please read the reference before changing factual information. It was founded in 2001 but started unofficially in 1999 when Andrew began development. Please change it back. --Notmyhandle 04:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed it, (I don't know why you couldn't change it, but still) but I still think it should be 1999. Since that when it DID begin. In I'm going to add that it was unofficially founded at that date. ~ rih29 21:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Jagex is a seperate entity from its creators - just because development started in 1999, doesn't mean that's when it was founded. Look at the source for the date. Jagex copyrights date to earlier because Andrew transferred the copyrights to his earlier work to Jagex. Comrade Tux 21:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
But Jagex existed in 1999. This deserves some type of mention in the article. ~ rih29 10:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
If you can find a source for that, go ahead and add it. Comrade Tux 17:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Changing back. Comrade Tux 18:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The source is at the bottom of the freakin' Jagex website. 1999 - 2007. Adding it again. ~ rih29 21:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
The copyright date indicates the date that (some of) the material was copyrighted at, not the date the company was founded at. However, we could put that in the article - just say that "development started in 1999" instead of that the company was unofficially founded in 1999. I just don't like the whole "founded" bit, because the objectives of Andrew and Paul in 1999 (making a game on the side as freelance programmers) and Jagex today (running RS as a commercial operation) are quite different. Comrade Tux 04:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
It's been a week and some, so I'm going to put in the started development bit. Comrade Tux 05:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The domain Jagex.com was registered on the 18th of September 1999. The earliest archive I can find is from the 29th of November 1999 and it describes Jagex Software as "a small software company based in England". The earliest reference to Jagex on usenet I can find was by Andrew Gower on the 21st of October 1999. --Joshtek 16:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I thought Companies House would be a reliable and veribiable source of information so checked their website. Business 03982706 was incorporated on 2000-04-28 as MEAUJO (492) LIMITED and changed their name to JAGEX LIMITED on 2000-06-27. Their Company Type is described as a Private Limited Company with their Nature of Business listed as 7220 - Software consultancy & supply'. --Joshtek 16:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
On the runescape website it has the year 1999-2008 clearly at the bottom. Therefore, it should be put s 1999-2008, not 2001-2008.

Cheers, --Royalmate1 (talk) 02:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Player and revenue numbers

Some new player and revenue numbers were put up. The sources haven't changed to support them, though. Where are they from? Can't find anything supporting them on the Jagex site, for one. Comrade Tux 19:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is Jagex's email address?

However, with a bit of looking around you can find quite a lot of information about them, including their London office address (Suite 105, 300 Kensal Road, W10 5BE), Cambridge office address (St Andrews House, 90 St. Andrew's Road, CB4 1DL) and the London telephone number (020 8960 6500)this is all from the RIPE data, so is freely available out there...it includes some email addresses too 87.194.44.145 (talk) 12:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


Tarheels54 runescape player

[edit] Beyond RuneScape

In the part of the article dubbed "Beyond Runescape," I noticed that it is mentioned twice that certain games can be played Jagex's website. I don't know exactly how to fix it, so if anybody can, please do so. -A guy who isn't a member of this place and lives in VA

Just click the edit button and make any changes you feel improve the article. Just make sure that it follows our basic five pillars for articles, which are the most basic principles to follow on Wikipedia. Since you've brought this to my attention, though, I'll take a look at it myself. And if you want to become a "member" here, just create an account! Pyrospirit Shiny! 14:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


Tarheels54 offical rs player edited

[edit] MechScape?

It seems that Jagex have registered the name "Mechscape," and taken to taking up all the names of websites that go with it, i.e, Mechhq.com, Mechgold.com etc. Doest this mean that they are planning a new game beyond RuneScape? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.121.222 (talk) 08:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

MechScape Central seems to think so. We're also working on MechScape but it has a fair amount of work to be done on it.--RS Ren 11:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The article on Jagex's MechScape has been nominated for deletion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/MechScape --RS Ren 10:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism?

opened jagex and it was blank, lil' shocked at this so i rewrote it to the first unvandaled version.

guy by the ip adress of 72.204.208.108 wrote some nasty stuff and then subsequently blanked the page.

i dont write much, but will there be reprecussions for this guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devel31 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for fixing that, I've warned the person responsible. Yes, the vandal hordes seem to be hitting these articles particularly hard lately. It's getting a little tiresome, to be honest. Probably someone has posted "hEY letz go vandlase wikipedia runescape articles LOLOLOLOL!!!!11one!1" on some forum somewhere. I still don't understand why a computer game is targeted so much. It's about as apolitical as you can get. Sign your posts! CaptainVindaloo t c e 15:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

It's the recent update that has gotten people vandalizing this page - ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.109.200.69 (talk) 02:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Information code 2.4.5485.65

Tarheels54 Runescape player —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.234.78 (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MechScape World

This fansite shouldn't be used as a source, there's nothing reliable about it, and their about page makes it abundantly clear that they are out to cash-in from the word go. Though probably inserted by an editor in good faith, their continual presence on WP in one form or another smacks of spam, once they get their foot in the door they're going to expect a free lunch (perhaps even singing vikings). The 3 fansites agreed upon for the RuneScape article is kept stable, but sends out a message that wikipedia is a cash cow of potential users. I'm not suggesting that the RS links should be changed but editors should be aware that MechScape is already targeted as the future battleground where fansites will be vying for coverage, the thing doesn't even exist yet in any practical terms. What I'd strongly suggest is that the site be removed, period, since it's neither reliable for a source or needed for speculation, if and when MechScape appears there will be reliable sources to cover it on WP, if it doesn't the info would have to be removed as speculation anyway. If and when there is a MechScape article it should be linked to the Open Directory Project, readers can find what they need from that. Someoneanother 23:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

The reason MechScape World was added as a reference is because it listed the domain names referred to in the article and is the original source. While the domain name registrations can be easily verified, it can only be done so if you actually know some of the domain names in question. However, the Wikipedia article doesn't list the domain names and so without such a reference the statement couldn't be made. MechScape World is reliable in the sense that it provides verifiable sources for virtually all of its claims. It isn't for me to decide whether it should feature on Wikipedia, but it isn't just some random fansite - it is the oldest and most authoritative MechScape fansite. --RS Ren (talk) 02:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
It isn't a reliable source in WP's standards so it shouldn't be there, the information contained is extremely minor in the grand scheme and will have little to no impact on the MechScape article should the game be released. Despite being up front about your involvement on your user-page, placing it here is a conflict of interest, we shouldn't be discussing the validity of your own research or website. If details of something have to be published on a fansite just to make them available then it's either non-notable (not the case) or too early for wikipedia to be covering it (the case). When some concrete details come from Jagex or a news source MechScape can be dealt with. Someoneanother 20:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, from a wikicentric worldview much of the MechScape research is currently WP:Synth with a dashing of unverifiable and crystal ball. While many sources can be verified, deriving any significance or meaning from these sources individually and collectively is beyond the role of Wikipedia. --RS Ren (talk) 00:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mechscape

Should we remove it for now, its got 2 sources and theres nothing that speceficly states they are working on it.--Jakezing (talk) 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I say we should improve it instead, but we have to be careful of WP:Synth and WP:NOR.

It is indisputable that:
  • Jagex have trademarks for the term MechScape, including a logo.
  • There are many MechScape-related domain names which list Jagex as their owner.
  • MechScape is listed in the RuneScape website's global Cascading Style Sheets.

It is separately indisputable (as in to put 1 and 1 together is WP:Synth) that:
  • Jagex have been hiring for people to work on an MMORPG besides RuneScape for some time now, and in their job vacancies say they desire someone with a general sci-fi interest.

Sourced but potentially controversial are statements of former Jagex employees about their jobs working on a futuristic/sci-fi project and their concept art which is believed to be for MechScape but it isn't stated whether it is or not. Similarly, statements from people who claim to know Jagex employees who they claim told them about the existence of MechScape are unverifiable.--RS Ren (talk) 15:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jagex in the media

See Talk:RuneScape for various articles in the press relating to Jagex and its creations. --RS Ren (talk) 17:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Funorb

Jagex has really been spending a lot of resources on funorb but, I see no mention of it here. Perhaps there should be a section for Funorb? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.30.175 (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Nearly every section in this article (introduction, history, future development, operation - but not reception) mentions FunOrb. Neither RuneScape nor FunOrb have their own section here, instead they have their own article and are mentioned where appropriate. --RS Ren (talk) 08:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Noteworthy: Scam advertisement at bottom, removal?

Apparently some one has put some scam advertisement at the bottom of the article. I'm just a new user (as I noticed this just a moment ago), so haven't got the rights to remove this. It's past External Links.

Someone vandalized Template:Jagex, which is included in this article. It's been fixed now. If the vandalized version is still appearing, try bypassing your browser cache. Thanks for pointing it out. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 17:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)