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Contents 1 Assesment 2 Islamophobia 3 New games journalism AfD 4 Signature 5 Tweede Kamermembers-templates 6 Shadow of the Colossus 7 AfD Nomination: GuildCafe 8 GCOTW 9 Image:Alizee.jpg 10 Moving on 11 Johann Hari pic 12 Current events page 13 Thanks for the welcome! 14 Spam 15 I'm sorry. 16 Unspecified source for Image:Ralphbaer.jpg 17 CVG IBMaker 18 Tagging articles 19 Islam 20 Programmer flagged as a CVG? 21 GuildCafe 22 Barnstar 23 Government simulation game 24 Michael Jackson Article 25 Your help with Felix-Felix 26 FK Image 27 Chubby Cherub 28 Vancouver template 29 You Rock! 30 GCOTW history 31 Thanks 32 Football AID 21 Jan - 28 Jan 33 Thanks 34 Images listed for deletion 35 Removing tag 36 A category that needs alot of CVG tags 37 Rinus Michels 38 It's never going to be finished, is it? 39 Eerste divisie doesn't play in Europe 40 Fair use rationale for Image:Goldeneyesource.png 41 Neil Voss 42 Image:Jacques Delors.jpg 43 ITN template 44 Fourth Balkenende cabinet 45 sorry for valdislism 46 Hey 47 Image tagging for Image:Gerritzalm.jpg 48 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Openarena logo.gif) 49 Hi

[edit] Assesment

It'd be useful, though I don't have/use AWB. I'm just using tabs from monobook.js that auto-add a start tag and nifty edit summary, or copy-pasting the |class=. Open up 5 firefox tabs at a time and I go pretty fast. --PresN 05:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islamophobia

Thanks for the link Jacoplane. I have to admit that I actually didn't knew that such a report was released these days, and I appreciate that you mention it to me. There is of course no doubt that we can mention something from that report in the article, but unfortunately my "wikitime" is still a bit limited... I'll read the "highlights" though and properly some selected parts of the report itself, and see what I can do about it. -- Karl Meier 17:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New games journalism AfD

I have closed the AfD as merg. Since you have expressed an interest in merging the article yourself, I thought I would leave a note on your talk page. RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 20:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signature

Noooooo! — BRIAN0918 • 2006-12-28 02:05Z

[edit] Tweede Kamermembers-templates

Hi! With the creation of these templates like Template:D66 Tweede Kamer members you seem to imply that, like the Dutch wikipedia, the English wikipedia should have a page for each Dutch MP. Did you imply this? Because if you do I have some doubts whether that is a good thing to want and to enact now (seen the development of other articles on Dutch politcs). C mon 18:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

You are only citing the secondary criterion, the primary criterion is that "newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries" should be made about these persons. Furthermore the current policy implies that we can also make an article about each member of a Provinciale Staten.

My doubts are dual:

1. Should we intend to create an article on each Dutch MP is it worth the trouble? Are readers searching for this? Interested? I can see why the Dutch wikipedia has an article on each MP. But on the english wikipedia it seems logical to create articles on fractievoorzitters, ministers etc. instead of on MPs.
2. Should we do it now. Seen the state of the rest of the field, articles are lacking on Dutch ministers, ministries, cabinets, etc. I would prefer to concentrate my energy there instead of on MPs.

C mon 19:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

First off I do think it is interesting to create small articles on more MPs, the current selection is very concentrated. It will also be an interesting way to create some coordination in articles on (politics of) the Netherlands, as the wikiproject we both signed onto also intended. But I have to note that most MPs are backbenchers, which will not become minister or state secretary, or reach foreign media, it is questionable whether many will gain prominence in the Dutch media. So I am not sure whether to create an article on each of the 150.C mon 20:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shadow of the Colossus

[1]
I appreciate that. Thank you. -- Steel 23:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: GuildCafe

I've nominated the article GuildCafe for deletion under the Articles for deletion process. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that GuildCafe satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. I have explained why in the nomination space (see What Wikipedia is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GuildCafe. Don't forget to add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of each of your comments to sign them. You are free to edit the content of GuildCafe during the discussion, but please do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top). Doing so will not end the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarinth (talk • contribs)

[edit] GCOTW

Nope, I didn't see that, but I did see when they talked about BioForge ([2]). Thunderbrand 18:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Alizee.jpg

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[edit] Moving on

Of course. --SeizureDog 02:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Johann Hari pic

Hi JacoPlame - The picture of Johann Hari that you agreed to post has now been given the correct copyright-free status at flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/75377964@N00/?saved=1

It turns out the picture of Hari currently on the article is not actually him (I e-mailed him, and he looked at it and informed me of this - see the discussion page) so as soon as you could correct it, that would be great.

It's probably best not to unfreeze the page though. There is still no consensus since the user Felix-Felix, who has in the past inserted libellous falsehoods and the current fake picture into the entry, is refusing any offers of a compromise. As you can see if you check out the discussion page, he has declared that he wants to unilaterally delete any of the critics he disagrees with, and wants to quote only the one group he happens to agree with, Medialens. David r from meth productions 17:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jacoplane-the flickr picture of Hari is genuine, as I think I've established here[3] My position was always that this picture should stay in the article-even after the portrait photo is non-copyvio, which other editors supported too. Could it be replaced?Felix-felix 10:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current events page

I was thinking of "taking over" the in the news page on the CVG portal and updating it regularly. I meant to reply to your post on the CVG project talk page a while ago, but forgot. Thunderbrand 04:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I started updating it. Thunderbrand 04:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the welcome!

Better late than never, indeed! Cheers though, all that info should come in handy. I'm still pretty new to Wikipedia, but I've been jumping in at the deep end a bit, but thankfully, I haven't been editing anything too important. Maxdave2010 17:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maxdave2010 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Spam

The spam link The Consumer's Free Guide To Self Storage has been inserted into Self storage many, many times under new accounts made just for this purpose. I think its past due that we blacklist these people. Can you help? House of Scandal 03:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm sorry.

I'll never vandalize another page again. Please forgive me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coconutfred73 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Ralphbaer.jpg

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[edit] CVG IBMaker

Thanks for finding those bugs! I've updated the page to 1.07 now. Also, for future suggestions/bugs, a while back I made this page, which adds some context to the actual page and has a space for comments. Might also be better to change the link on WP:CVG to that (which I appreciate you adding, never got around to it myself).

Thanks again! --ADeveria 23:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging articles

Hey, one of my personal projects is going through and rating all of the unrated cvg articles. over the last few months I (and some other people) have brought it down from 6000+ to less than 800... so imagine my surprise when look at it today and see that over 400 new articles have been tagged! Cry... Anyways, great job on finding and tagging them all. It may mean more work for me, but keep up the good job! --PresN 22:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islam

You unprotected it and now there's so much vandalism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.88.146.173 (talk) 07:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Programmer flagged as a CVG?

Hi. I just noticed that { {cvgproj} } was added to Antony Crowther, a CVG programmer. As I understand, this is for computer video *games* and not programmers?

I didn't remove it yet. I wanted your confirmation first. - Lyverbe 11:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GuildCafe

It appears that the closing admin decided to delete GuildCafe. As the original creator of the article, you may wish to ask them to userify the article to your space, because it is likely that there would be additional independent media coverage over the next couple of months that would justify its re-creation, and it may be worth preserving the edit history. Tarinth 13:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The CVG Barnstar
		For all of the work you've put into revamping the pages relating to the CVG WikiProject, as well as hunting down and tagging hundreds of articles, I award you this CVG Barnstar! --PresN 18:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Government simulation game

On an unrelated note, and since you're quire active on the CVG subjects, I was hoping you might take a peek at Government simulation game. This is an article that I rescued from nearly-certain AfD deletion about a week ago, and have since completely rewritten with new content and a lot of sources.

I'd love it if you had any comments/contributions to this article. I think it could eventually become a good article on the genre. Tarinth 20:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Jackson Article

What should be the birth name and what should be the also known as?

BMI [4] and a court document [5] indicated Michael Joe Jackson. Israell 08:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your help with Felix-Felix

Hi JacoPlame - I wanted to get your advice. Felix-Felix, who has been trying to negatively change Johann Hari's wiki entry for ages, appears to have crossed a line.

He now claims Johann Hari advocates "the detruction of untermenschen", and has started saying it is not anti-Semitic to say "Jews rule the world". He has inserted libellous falsehoods into the article, including the claim hari went to Harrow School, one of the most expensive public schools in britain, when i fact he is from a workign class family.

I think there is a strong case for banning him from editing Johann Hari's entry since he clearly is motivated by extreme malice. Who do I appeal to to get him banned? What is the process for this?

[edit] FK Image

Freely licensed, baby. Only way to go! --Zeality 07:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wow! GGA made it to collaboration of the week? I'll have to add some sourced information. A couple months ago I scouted reviews, and it has considerably less than MNSG. The reception section might be difficult, and might have to totally depend on IGN / Gamespot. At any rate, we can make this FA. --Zeality 07:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chubby Cherub

You've got a lot of experience with game articles, and I don't. So I'd like your advice regarding Chubby Cherub. See also its talk page. I'll follow your recommendation on this one. Cheers, Rklawton 14:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vancouver template

FYI, regarding your edit to Template:COTWCurrentPicks, here is what happened to the template you were looking for. Agent 86 17:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You Rock!

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I think You rock Jacoplane!Protect On!!! BarnStar Boy 22:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GCOTW history

I noticed you updated the history for the Cheating article. For how to get the byte size, go to spellcheck.net, then go into editing the article, cut the contents (for the "after" byte size), then paste them at spellcheck. The byte size is the "character count". Thunderbrand 20:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar. RobJ1981 01:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Football AID 21 Jan - 28 Jan

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the Barnstar. :) Here, have this! - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images listed for deletion

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Thank you. BigrTex 19:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing tag

It got removed because for about 10 minutes, the WPMMORG tag also included the CVG tag. Unfortunately for me, I removed about 10 double tags befoer the user reverted the changes. I need to go back and correct that now, thanks for reminding me. --PresN 23:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright, think I got them all, they were all next to each other in my contributions list. --PresN 23:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A category that needs alot of CVG tags

The articles in Category:Computer and video game characters by game need alot, I've added some manually. If you could use AWB (since I don't have it/don't use it) that would be appreciated. RobJ1981 21:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

That was quick, thanks. Here is another which I don't think is all tagged: Category:Computer and video game characters. The subcategories at the top, as well as the articles listed below that. I've done some of the articles at the bottom, so that will save you some time. RobJ1981 22:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Well as I was looking through some articles, I noticed plenty didn't even talk pages. Here is another category that should provide many untagged CVG articles: Category:Computer and video game genres. Lots of sub-cats as well. I think this could go faster, if more people used AWB. I would use AWB, but I'm trying to cut back on Wikipedia.. I spend too much time here. RobJ1981 08:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Computer and video game websites. I went through some, and found they didn't have talk pages at all. I'm assuming there is more untagged in that category. RobJ1981 05:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Well here is a pretty big category with lots of sub-cats (many untagged articles to find I bet): Category:Computer and video games. Don't feel pressured to do all of these at once (unless AWB is quick), I'm just posting them so you know about them. RobJ1981 06:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Category:Video game lists. I went through some of it, but I'm sure there is more untagged there. RobJ1981 21:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rinus Michels

Dat is inderdaad een beschamend artikeltje, ik zal eens kijken wat ik er aan kan doen deze week. SportsAddicted | discuss 22:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's never going to be finished, is it?

Yesterday, I saw that the Unasssessed CVG articles cat had grown back to 900+. Today i wake up to see you added another 1000 articles! It's just never going to be finished is it? I had no idea there were so many cvg-stub cats that weren't tagged. Alas. Keep up the good work, though! It's much more important to have all of the cvg articles tagged than rated, and we'll get there eventually. --PresN 18:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eerste divisie doesn't play in Europe

Unless they qualify for winning the KNVB Cup of course, or when they lose the final and the winner qualifies for the Champions League ;) SportsAddicted | discuss 22:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Over Michels.... Ik heb laatst voor Feyenoord Rotterdam en Jan van Breda Kolff (footballer) afbeeldingen via het Nationaal archief gehaald. Ik heb vanmiddag al even gekeken en een aantal geschikte afbeeldingen gevonden. Ik dacht echter eerst de trainerscarrière verder uit te breiden alvorens er foto's aan toe te voegen. SportsAddicted | discuss 22:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Kunnen alle beelden op http://beeldbank.nationaalarchief.nl/ worden gebruikt?? Dat zou fantastisch zijn... JACOPLANE • 2007-01-31 22:12

Ja, mits je erbij vermeld dat het daar vandaan komt. Kopieer gewoon de policy van een van de door mij geplaatste afbeeldingen en pas de URL naar het origineel aan. SportsAddicted | discuss 22:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Briljant!! Die site heeft fotos van iedereen! Ik heb honderden mails verstuurd om toestemming te vragen ... dit gaat me zooo veel tijd besparen :) JACOPLANE • 2007-01-31 22:28

Niet van iedereen, van recente jaren kan je er bijvoorbeeld niets vinden. Na 1984 kon ik er van Feyenoord bijvoorbeeld niets meer op vinden, waardoor ik fair use afbeeldingen ben gaan zoeken op andere sites met een mooie summary, maar daar zijn inmiddels toch al vraagtekens bij geplaatst en (tijdelijk?) uit het artikel verwijderd. Je moet trouwens wel een beetje slim zoeken. Bij Feyenoord was het bijvoorbeeld zo dat ze de ene keer Feyenoord en de andere keer Feijenoord gebruikten, niet alleen na 1974, maar ook ver daarvoor. Ook als je bijvoorbeeld zoekt op Rinus Michels, dan krijg je niet alle foto's van hem te zien, aangezien er ook foto's staan waar hij alleen met Michels wordt beschreven, dus zonder Rinus. Dus een beetje puzzelen moet je nog wel, maar ja het is een mooie site inderdaad :) SportsAddicted | discuss 00:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Pas even op met de URL die je meegeeft. Om de een of andere reden verschijnt er een andere foto wanneer je de URL aanklikt, zo ook bij de door jou geuploade foto van Piet de Visser bij RWDM. Ik merkte dat het bij Jan van Breda Kolff ook het geval was, dus ik heb bij de Feyenoord afbeeldingen de URL van het directe plaatje eindigend op .jpg gegeven in plaats van de html pagina waar deze op stond. SportsAddicted | discuss 00:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Goldeneyesource.png

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[edit] Neil Voss

How do you know Neil?

[edit] Image:Jacques Delors.jpg

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[edit] ITN template

Hi Jacoplane! I see that you have just removed the oldest entry from Template:In the news. I have left a comment about this edit at Template talk:In the news. My main point is that we have quite a long featured article tomorrow, which means that we would need more ITN entries instead of less, in order to maintain Main Page balance. There is not much new material on WP:ITN/C and Portal:Current events at the moment, so any ITN entry would be welcome/needed tomorrow. Aecis^Brievenbus 23:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fourth Balkenende cabinet

Ik zag net trouwens dat je het artikel Fourth Balkenende cabinet hebt aangemaakt. Nou vroeg ik me het volgende af. Alle kabinetten tot en met Lubbers-3 hebben in {{Cabinets of the Netherlands}} de titel "Netherlands cabinet [naam van premier] [eventueel volgnummer]." Maar bij Kok en Balkenende is het "[rangtelwoord] [premier] cabinet." Moet dit op elkaar afgestemd worden? En zo ja, welke artikelen moeten dan hernoemd worden? Aecis^Brievenbus 23:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sorry for valdislism

Sorry for valdailsn

I tried to detel it but its not work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marioman111 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 13 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Hey

Wikipedia and I had a trial separation and now we're barely on speaking terms. :) I get kind of fed up with some of the stuff that goes on, but I'm trying to hang in there. I don't really edit James Bond articles unless I've got nothing better to do and even then it's articles that don't really get much attention (books usually). Most of the time it's just maintenance or glaring errors that I feel compelled to fix. There are certain articles for both Bond and CVG I look at, but I haven't checked my watchlist since maybe September of last year. :/ I'm trying. How goes your editing? :P K1Bond007 04:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi

Hi. Its been a long time since we last conversed. How are you? I was on a self imposed sabbatical and I think I am now ready to wake up from my long hibernation. And resume the task of improving the Alizee article, though I realize until her third album comes out there wont be much to write about. Meanwhile, I thought of few areas where it can be improved upon.

1. In the Career section, the third para (which talks about the single L'Alize) can be expanded to speak of her other two singles from the first album.
2. In the same way, coverage of her second album could be expanded to two or three paragraphs.
3. Rather than having the information about her tour/live mentioned in passing, we can have a paragraph or two speaking about accumulated statistics about the concert attendances, promotion as well as market stats about the live album.

And if the section becomes too large, we can split the section into two subsections - one for studio albums and the other for live performances, and can throw in info regarding her non-tour performances as well. Also, two-three paragraphs per album seems to me as a good way to set up the prelude to the albums' own articles.

If you agree with the necessity, I will start working on it (since I was lying low for quite sometime, I may not be in a good position to judge what path other editors' are taking for this article, and thats why I am asking for your opinion; I am not seeing much work done, though :D). And if you need any help converting the inline refs to cite webs, just tell me. Regards, --soum^সৌমোyasch 19:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

On other thoughts, the page will undergo quite a significant restructuring once her new album comes out. So, it may not be a bad idea not to disturb it till then (which, I hope, is not too far, btw :P). What do you think? --soum^সৌমোyasch 18:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)