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Contents 1 Hi 2 Signpost updated for October 03, 2007 3 :D SURPRISE 4 RE: The Hound Leaked? 5 hey 6 Sorry 7 Aww.. :( 8 AWW 9 Ha! 10 LOL 11 Thanks 12 Hi 13 Wikipedia Weekly Episode 32 14 Wikipedia Weekly 15 Tracey Neville 16 wRarnings 16.1 Thanks 17 Signpost updated for October 15th, 2007. 18 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Incubus9.jpg) 19 Replaceable fair use Image:CoheedBandMembers.jpg 20 Replaceable fair use Image:Incubus9.jpg 21 Replaceable fair use Image:Meg_and_Dia_new_band_picture.jpg 22 a thank you 23 Note 24 Thanks 25 Isotope 217 26 RfA 27 Re:long time... 28 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Advanced Game settings.JPG 29 Wikipedia Weekly Episode 33 30 Orphaned non-free media (Image:AlkalineLogo.jpg) 31 Your user subpage speedy deletion request 32 Signpost updated for October 22nd, 2007. 33 Re: 33.1 Userpage 34 Thanks 35 Sure 36 No problem 36.1 Image tag 36.2 Userpage

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The pleasure is all mine. Have a great day. Zenlax ^{Talk Contributions Signatures} 19:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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--Summerluvin 22:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: The Hound Leaked?

When I removed the info the first time, I felt like mentioning that it shouldn't be on Wikipedia anyway, but I didn't incase I was wrong - now that you mention it, I think it's best that we don't include it on Wiki... I'm sure I saw info like that removed elsewhere as well =D ≈ The Haunted Angel 23:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a source of the leak you seem to know whats going on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.250.15 (talk) 05:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

hey

your welcome. tough day?--Summerluvin 23:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

hey, sorry I didn't realise that, now I understand why Gudjohnsen's page only Iceland's national team has the small flag...thanks for the advice =D
Vian brazil (03/10/07, 22:45 in Brasília) —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 01:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Aww.. :(

I didn't know you were sick! That totally sucks- I hope you feel better! --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 02:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Get well soon, k?

That's so sweet! Actually, you're one of the nicest I've met :) <3 --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 02:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

What?! No way- You're fun, nice and smart- you beat me to the punch 100 percent! ^_^ --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 02:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, if I must! ^_^

(I know it's a weird name, so no comments! lol :) ) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 02:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

AWW

i'm sorry that sucks a lot of people have been getting sick recently. --Summerluvin 03:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ha!

Haha, that's fantastic! Pity about the personal attack, but that's the most creative vandalism I've ever seen! ≈ The Haunted Angel 19:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

-thank you. *Takes Bow* —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.250.15 (talk) 22:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

LOL

I saw that "hound leaked" vandalism- seems like he has a liiittle too much time on his hands! lol  :) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 21:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

(shouldn't somebody have blocked him by now??)

Yep, got it! stupid vandalizers.. :) lol --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 21:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

hey thanks, i don't care what that guy says i know it's not true and if he did get me blocked i would just have avery make me a new one next time i hang out with her--Summerluvin 01:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Sorry about that. I was exploring Wikipedia's features and the my preferences caught my eye and I clicked on it and it mentioned something with a signature, so I copied my signature coded and added it to the box and I typed in ~, the four that you need and some other code was added. But I signed your guest book. And sorry if I did anything wrong to your guest book. Speed CG ^Talk 12:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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Tracey Neville

I have added the citation for my second edit, but you still removed it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.143.179 (talk) 15:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

wRarnings

What do you mean,"Remove warnings?15:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Coolgirly88

Either because I dont need the warnings any more,or I'm embarrased to say that I've gotten that many warnings.I'm barely a teen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolgirly88 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Gottcha.Thanks. Coolgirly88 16:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC) How do you change the text font on signatures?I'vgot the colors,but can't figure out how to change the font.Coolgirly88 Coolgirly88 17:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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a thank you

Hi, Jack. Thank you for defending my userpage against the marauding hoards. The page is now semi-protected and I hope this ratchets things back a bit. I'm passing out cookies - enjoy. --Jack Merridew 09:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Note

From now on, I will now reply here and at your talk page. Thanks, — jacĸrм (talk) 23:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for signing my book. Auroranorth (sign) 14:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Can you sign mine? — jacĸrм (talk) 15:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Isotope 217

You reverting my edit without discussion is not helpful. NFC is a content guideline—it is not policy. WP:FUC, which is an official policy, states the using the images on the Isotope 217 article is not a fair use violation. Guidelines are not policy, but are merely recommendations. I've addressed my concern about WP:NFC contradicting WP:FUC on the talk page. Please revert your own edit, as I can't or I will face a 3RR ban. Thank you. —Christopher Mann McKay^talk 20:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I was following the guideline, which most articles follow. Could you please quote me the exact text you are referring to in WP:FUC? Thanks, — jacĸrм (talk) 20:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Although I'm trying not to canvass, you did ask for this :P ≈ The Haunted Angel Review Me! 23:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:long time...

Hi. :) Sorry I haven't been around, I was grounded & this week was pretty rough. I had some fun today by going to the "haunted corn maze" with some friends, though ^_^ lol --極地狼 ( 我是一头死的狼 ) 05:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

How are you? --極地狼 ( 我是一头死的狼 ) 23:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Happy now? — jacĸrм (talk) now knows the image rules! 02:39, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Done. — ERcheck (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks alot. — jacĸrм (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Do you know any good japanese (but in english translation ^_^) movies? I'm trying to find one that I can watch with a friend of mine who's a foreign exchange student. Just thought I'd ask, --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 22:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't.. I'm not big on Japanese stuff. You could refer to List of Japanese films though. Good luck! — jacĸrм (talk) 22:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

ah, I see. thanks anyway! --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 22:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

That would be great, thanks! Feel free to blank the page and start over if you wish. I'm still looking around for ideas, though, so If somebody else comes up with something that I might like a bit more, I might use that one. Thanks again! ^_^ --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm talking about making a navigation bar for the top first, so let me know what pages you want on it (talk, contributions; look at mine) and what images you want them to be, choose them from here. If you can't be bothered choosing, let me choose, and I'll choose the most appropriate pictures I can for them. — jacĸrм (talk) 03:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and choose the pictures- What I'd like on the navigation bar would be my talk, my contributions, Sandbox, email, userpage, whatever you think I would like on it. Sorry this message seems so rushed, I gotta hurry and get somewhere :) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 18:39, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, also, would you be doing the work on my userpage or on a sandbox for the moment? --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 19:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I just finnished my own new userpage, like it? ^^ I'll get to your page soon.. — jacĸrм (talk) 02:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Summerluvin isn't currently working on wikipedia. She is taking a wikibreak, from what I've been told by her, so she will most likely not reply for awhile. Thanks for the concern for her :) How are you able to check what edits were made where, by the way? I've been trying to figure that out forever! --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 01:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, when you click "My Contributions", it has the name of the user at the end of the link in the adress bar. Replace that with any user and bang! — jacĸrм (talk) 02:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Haha thanks for the info :) I saw your userpage just barely, and I think it's great! Great job! (Can't wait to see what mine will look like when it's all finished! ^_^ lol) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Domthedude001 00:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Heh, it's nothing. I don't see why it was nominated for deletion, I think it's a good idea to have a page like that. — jacĸrм (talk) 00:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure

Go on ahead and do what you need to. --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 02:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks great, thanks :) I don't think it needs any changes for now.. (Would you know how to get rid of the quote I have on my userpage? I cannot find it on the template page! lol) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that one. --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! ^_^ Do you think my userpage needs anything changed? It looks like something is either missing or there's too much... --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

(Mabye even a color change) But, anywho, if it's good the way it is, just let me know. :) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Done! Check you're email inbox (I fixed mine too) :) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem ^_^ Oh, hey, check out my new userbox I created (I have no idea if It's going to get annoying after awhile lol) --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see! Thanks for pointing that out. It's like putting the same word down twice without noticing it... ugh. ^_^ I'll keep an eye open for that lol --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

(I fixed it!) See ya later --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 03:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem

and sorry for writing or your profile..didn't mean to! Udonknome 05:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Image tag

Thanks for addressing the issue although I remain of the opinion Betacommandbot is in error. It would be helpful if its notifications actually included a template of what is required. A major failing of Wikipedia is the assumption its members all possess psychic abilities. 23skidoo 22:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it's rather confusing, like when I got my first notice from it. As long as you read WP:NFCC#10 carefully, you will see what is missing, as a fair-use rationale was missing from the image in question. The bot is not in error, just being a bit of a perfectionist! — jacĸrм (talk) 22:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. When betacommandbot started spamming me a few months ago I decided to no longer support images on Wikipedia and just let any of mine die as needed. The rules change every 6 weeks and the fact it's even remotely confusing is unacceptable. I revived interest at the request of the NovelsWikiProject but I just informed its leader that I will no longer be paying any attention to these sorts of things. If someone wants to put in the effort, they're welcome to. Otherwise I'm done with images. 23skidoo 22:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I do think it's fair, and you can surely see that? If Wikipedia does not own the image, we must make sure we are saying why we are using it fairly. You are an admin, you should be able to keep up with a simple rule like this! I agree it's confusing and annoying, but once you've just typed a few words on the rationale, it's fine, and you won't be bothered again. — jacĸrм (talk) 22:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Having agreed it is "confusing and annoying", we are obviously doing ourselves no favours at all if we are "cheesing off" even our most loyal and hardworking supporters. Like all large co-operative ventures the risks are high that the bureaucracy will now "grow and grow and grow" which must by avoided or it will kill itself. I can see the aim of these bots, however; when some user have been swamped by 50 or more requests for rationales to be filled in a mere handful of days, you can see that even the most industrious and careful editors just give up. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Do you know how long this 'rule' has been around? That all images must have a rationale as well as an image tag? I saw somewhere a discussion about changing it to "images uploaded after -whichever date- must contain an image tag and fair use rationale or they may be deleted after seven days", which I agree is a good idea. Oh, and, can you tell me what you meant when you said "we are obviously doing ourselves no favours at all if we are "cheesing off" even our most loyal and hardworking supporters" - do you mean the bot sending them tens of image notices? Or saying the policy is annoying and confusing? — jacĸrм (talk) 12:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC) — jacĸrм (talk) 12:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, the Bot's and their associated proponents messages to editors. This was a continuation of the subject - I wasn't in anyway getting at you. Far from it.! I can't remember about the age of these "rules" I get the impression it's about a year though. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 12:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

And I'm not "skidoo", I just joined in. I think the damage to his efforts / morale has already been done though. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 12:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It is very off-putting to receive those messages, I agree. I recently saw an editor who got very distressed, receiving over 50 messages from the same bot. If one has uploaded lots of images to this project, and you receive 50+ messages saying they may all be deleted, and that they are incorrectly summarised, it is rather offputting, especially if these images have been around for a long time, and the policy on image descriptions changed without the using being aware of those changes. See The proposal which calls for a slight change in some policies, but as you can see, it hasn't got far for an important subject, but they seem to agree that Betacommandbot is doing a good thing, which I guess it is, but it is still really off-putting to receive many messages of this kind. — jacĸrм (talk) 12:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

Hi Jackrm! Have you thought of anything that I could change about my page? Thanks again! --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 18:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Heh, in reply to your "re", no I haven't, I still think it looks good! — jacĸrм (talk) 18:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll just add little tid-bits as I go along. :) Thanks anyway --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 18:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

A userpage isn't really that important, try focusing on making an article better :) — jacĸrм (talk) 19:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I'm already working on another one. --PolarWolf ( grrr... ) 19:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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