Talk:Jacques Plante

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Featured article star Jacques Plante is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do.

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[edit] Name

OK, anon contributor comes through and removes two names from the "born as" name, leaving it exactly the same as the name given to begin with. Is that really the case, and we should eliminate the "born as" part, or was it just some thoughtless vandalism? -- JohnOwens 01:29 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)

I'm reverting, based on [1] and [2]. -- Salsa Shark 01:38 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)

New to wikipedia, but someones tampered with Plante's statistics can someone fix this?

Done and done....lil late i guess though i pulled them off the old versions of the page from 2 years ago. kinda scary no one saw that, that long Ottawa4ever (talk) 23:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A few comments

I was looking over this article and noticed a few problems that will prevent it from reaching GA-status. Although I haven't looked it over thoroughly, a few things stood out:

  1. The final paragraph in "Five straight Stanley Cups" is completely unreferenced. Y Done
  2. In the same paragraph, a word is missing ("to protect a broken ?"). Y Done, it was a nose.
  3. The majority of the second paragraph in "The comeback to professional hockey" is unreferenced. Y Done
  4. The "Retirement and death" section is completely unreferenced.Y Done
  5. The "Legacy" section is completely unreferenced.Y Done
  6. The first time you use the abbreviation "NHL", you need to explain what it means. For example, "...the National Hockey League (NHL)."Y Done
  7. Consistent verb tense is also nice. Almost every time that people use the conditional tense ("He would then join the World Hockey Association", "the Montreal Canadiens would retire Plante's jersey", etc.), it should be replaced. In this case, the article is in past tense, so "He then joined the World Hockey Association" and "the Montreal Canadiens retired Plante's jersey" would be better. Y Done Maxim(talk) 02:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I hope this helps, GaryColemanFan (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure does, but I'll need some time to work on this. Maxim(talk) 16:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Still working. :-) Maxim(talk) 02:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Update - I'm quite busy atm and I need to get the book back from the library... I realise now that I still need it, so the referencing might have to wait a bit more. Still working on verb tense. Maxim(talk) 02:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Finished all. :-) Maxim(talk) 00:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Comment His nickname "Jake the Snake" has no reference whatsoever and doesn't appear to be discussed in the text. -- Scorpion0422 00:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Added ref; it's not really discussed much, because it's not of huge importance; I have to keep the article under control, as I could go on for ages about Plante; the book is very comprehensive. I believe he got Jake the Snake while playing for the Buffalo Bisons because he went out of nets to get the puck, like a snake (dunno why people thought that :-p). I know this off the top of my head from the book, but I haven't found the specific part of it that says that yet. Maxim(talk) 23:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Understandable, but you still need to make sure you add an accurate reference. The reference that was given didn't support the claim, as the nickname wasn't mentioned. The book by R. Plante gives the information on page 41, so I fixed the reference. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold comments

Really only the issues I have are with consistency—the content, references, etc., look great.

  • Consistency in numbers—e.g., in the "Early life" section, you say "the eldest of eleven [actually, using words for numbers above ten is not recommended] children," "when Jacques was five years old," and "at age 12."
  • Consistency in naming—a bit over a quarter of the way into the article, you switch from saying "Jacques" to "Plante."
  • Either link all years or none at all.
  • Consistency in en dashes—some seasons use hyphens for year ranges, others use en dashes. The article titles do use hyphens, but this is incorrect. Scores should also consistently use en dashes.
  • The "Career achievements and honours" section reads like a trivia section—integrate relevant info into text or tables, remove the rest.
  • This isn't going to affect my pass or fail of the article, but perhaps some of the images should be sized a bit smaller? (Specifically Image:Jacques Plante young.jpg).

Tell me when done. --Kakofonous (talk) 04:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

All fixed but the second point. I use Jacques to differentiate from his father, Xavier, in the the early life section. Maxim(talk) 18:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Successful good article nomination

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of March 2, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Clear and descriptive.
2. Factually accurate?: Very well referenced.
3. Broad in coverage?: Pass
4. Neutral point of view?: Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images?: Great images!

If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Kakofonous (talk) 23:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)