Talk:Jacobin (politics)

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Jacobians during the french revolution were radical revolutionaries

Well, no, they were Jacobins. I'm not sure who a "Jacobian" would be. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:00, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] category

This list of standard iconic national symbolic figures that is now gathered here in a "see also" is a lot more suggestive of a category than of something that belongs in this article. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:00, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jacobin v Jacobin Club

There is a good reason for two articles. The Jacobin Club existed only during the French Revolution. Jacobin as a political stance has been been adopted by others since. Hence I think a merge would be a mistakeDejvid 00:18, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Concur. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:58, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cut recent addition

There was a large recent addition by a brand new user, who added it, then removed it, then someone else (another new user) recovered it; this happened twice. I've cut from article, and moved it to Jacobin/Sandbox. It's clearly someone's academic paper. It cites references by author name that were not added to the References section of the article (it even cites Wikipedia!), although in all cases it would not be hard to guess what work is referred to (nothing obscure). It was not really integrated with the article.

I've asked the person who added it whether it is his own work, and, if not, whether he has appropriate permission to use it. I figure he may have had good reason to ultimately delete it himself. Anyway, if it is OK to use, there is probably some material in it worth mining, maybe even the bulk of it, based on a quick read. -- Jmabel | Talk July 6, 2005 01:40 (UTC)

[edit] Minority languages

Does this belong in the intro?

My recollection of this is that all the Jacobins did was to stop use of minority language for official purposes, like legal documents. If I'm wrong, please add details; if I'm right "stamp out" seems a little strong.

Did they claim Breton was reactionary before or after the Vendee? Septentrionalis 14:29, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I have no idea about the relevance of it; I was really just copyediting and it was there when I got here. :) If you are more well-informed than I, please feel free to move it along, otherwise I'll need to do some reading and then figure out how to improve the article. Also see below. Kaisershatner 01:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page move?

I was thinking that this page might be better entitled "Jacobin (politics)" along the lines of "Chickenhawk (politics)" to make it clear about its use as a political epithet. "Jacobin" could then point to a disambiguation page that also would link to Jacobin Club. At least one of the politics articles I was reading that got me here (Neoconservatism in the United States) actually pointed at "Jacobin Club" accidentally. Thoughts? Kaisershatner 01:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I'd have no problem with this. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm doing it.--Bkwillwm 08:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I wrongly reversed this prior move

Below is my comment regarding a move request on Talk:Jacobin (disambiguation).

I was good intentioned, but have found myself in over my head and need help. I moved "Jacobin" to "Jacobin (disambiguation)", intending then to move "Jacobin (politics) to "Jacobin". I felt the (politics) article was the most notable of the disambiguated articles and the most like to be sought by a reader doing a search. Well I discovered a) I cannot do the second move because the name conflicts, and b) an old discussion on Talk:Jacobin (politics) had resulted in exactly the opposite renaming. (That is, I was inadvertently undoing the agree-to work of others.) Can I now have an administrator help me put things right? Jacobin (politics) should be left as it is; my "Jacobin (disambiguation)" should be move back to "Jacobin". Make sense? I do apologize.

I have repeated the comment here, so that interested editors will be sure to see it. Hult041956 23:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The left wing

Why no mention of the left? The Jacobins were the original (extremely radical) left wing. 71.131.23.199 (talk) 23:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)