Talk:Jacob Orgen

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According to Jay Robert Nash's Encyclopedia of World Crime, Orgen's birth date is given as 1894. The 1901 birthdate as seen on the tombstone, and presumably appearing on subsequent public records, 1919 was the date when Jacob Orgen's family disowned him considering 1919 the date of his "death" hence the 1901 date. While I believe 1894 to be the correct date I've noted both dates. This should offer an explanation for the "aged 25 years" statement. MadMax 20:00, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

• Note that Jay Robert Nash has boasted of including false information in his works, as copyright traps. DS 19:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

While that is true, the same information is stated in The Gangs of New York by Herbert Asbury (which I would not have access to until late 2005) as well as in Carl Sifikis's The Mafia Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia of American Crime. MadMax 05:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)