Talk:Jack Ryan (2004 U.S. Senate candidate)

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Ok I am not definitely in support of this guy, he seems like a major douche bag in my opinion. But as liberal democrat and an honest person, I must say that this article on this guy seems very left winged. The tone seems very one sided. But in the end thought this guy sucks so I dont really ALL that much.

Any specific criticisms? I'd appreciate if you'd let me know how to improve the article (or you can edit yourself, if you'd like). Thanks, Meelar (talk) 03:43, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

It seems pretty factual to me; there's a part where it discusses what his reactions to the allegations were, then it goes on to discuss what the Republican Party did in response. Quentin mcalmott 20:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to know who the California judge is. Obama might still be a State Senator if not for his or her intervention. Another one of the great 'what if's' of history? Plasterblast 0:32, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 Off Topic? 2 Dumbest Sex Scandal in American Political History 3 Platform 4 Attribution needed for somewhat silly statement 5 Born circa 1960???

[edit] Off Topic?

The details about the results of the Illinois race seem to go off topic after the point where Ryan dropped out (I feel that they do not seem to pertain to him at all). They also seem to change th subject of the article from him to the race, which is definitely not the focus of this wikipedia article. The details would have more relevance in an article about Obama or Alan Keyes. - Dragnilar 10:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dumbest Sex Scandal in American Political History

The first sex scandal in American Political History where no one had sex.

He is accused of propositioning his wife (albeit in a kinky manner).

She refused.

He said OK.

This was so idiotic. He should have come clean sooner and no one would have cared (people in divorces make outragous statements. 198.232.63.43 23:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Platform

I have a problem with part of the Platform section. "stresses accountability in education and freedom." Freedom? As opposed to other politicians, who are obviously anti-freedom. Jack Ryan may describe is platform as 'pro-freedom' but so would John Kerry, Pat Buchanan and, yes, his former opponent Barack Obama. Saying a candidate id 'pro-freedom' doesn't say anything. It's also NPOV as it suggests that his opponents are anti-freedom, which is neither fair, nor comfirmable. 140.160.66.49 00:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attribution needed for somewhat silly statement

Others pointed out that the allegations were never proven, and in fact, Ryan was awarded additional custody rights at the end of the hearing, suggesting the allegations were not deemed reliable by the judge

I added the attribution need tag and really be removing this line unless someone adds something as the line sounds a but dumb to me. I see no reason to presume the judge didn't believe her simply that he or she probably didn't see it as relevant. There is no suggestion by her he tried to coerce her or anything like that so it's arguable if it should or would in any way affect his fitness to be a parent (anymore then it should or would affect her fitness to be a parent if she was doing a similar thing) Nil Einne (talk) 08:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Born circa 1960???

OK this guy was born in a First World country in a time when accurate birth records were being kept. So what is his actual birth date? User:Juvarra 15:30, 16 March 2008 (GMT)