User talk:Jabez

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Welcome!

Hello, Jabez, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Wikipedia:Copyright violations

Hello, Wikipedia:Copyright and Wikipedia:Copyright violations explains Wikipedia's policy related to copyright. Currently on the websites I listed, the images and text is copyrighted. All images and text added to Wikipedia, except very few fair use exceptions, must be free for everyone to use without restrictions. Adding the images and text here does not make the existing copyright go away. Please read the policy and see if they answer your questions. FloNight talk 14:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Jabez.JPG
This is personal photo of mine. It is better to talk to the one who you can see!

[edit] My welcome and comments

Hello Jabez! The article is looking much better. It still has the problem of being written from one point of view. You need to understand that other users may edit the article and add text that points out the pitfalls of visting the area. Making articles POV is an important aspect of writing for WP.

I added my welcome and comments back to your talk (discussion) page. It is customary to leave notes from other people in place on your talk page. Once the page gets too long, you archive it. Your talk page is mainly a way that other users communicate with you. You may be surprised to learn that other editors read your talk page also. We do this to find out if a new user has been welcomed or if someone is helping them with an article. Sometimes several editors will have a friendly discussion on a user's talk page. (By the way, it is considered very bad form to remove warnings from your talk page.)

Don't bite the newbies is a important rule. More experienced editors help a new editor understand WP policies and guidelines. We offer alot of advice, hopefully in a friendly manner. FloNight talk 12:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The article doesn't seem to be a copyright violation any longer, so I restored your last edit. Thank you for your contributions. :) // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 10:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I think you need to work on making the article NPOV. --Spook (my talk | my contribs) 11:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I'll look at the article and make comments on the talk page of the article. If an editor adds some thing that is not relevant, it is better to discuss it on the talk page before you remove it. Removing other people's comments can start edit wars. Best to get a third or fourth opinion rather than remove something it by yourself. FloNight talk 12:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thank you for your advice.

I just started to make the page, I will follow your suggestions, but let me understand the rules of the game. I really don't want to do something against them. I simply need the time to understand. Dmitriy A. Pitirimov

Take all the time you need. Your contributions and presence at Wikipedia are appreciated. Welcome to the world of Wikipedia, and feel free to message me if you have any needs/concerns/questions. --DanielCD 14:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jabez aka Dmitriy A. Pitirimov, are you also 84.54.70.6 ?

Dmitriy, sorry to bother you here. Here's my problem: I've noticed certain activity on part of user 84.54.70.6 which is clearly in violation of Wikipedia policies, as well as general netiquette. I would like to discuss this activity with the user, and, if necessary, to bring it to attention of the community.

Just by correlating some of your edits, Dmitriy, with those of 84.54.70.6, and by some tracing, I've come to conclusion that, with high probability, 84.54.70.6 is an IP address that you use, and that, in fact, it may be considered your alias.

Could you please confirm, or deny that last statement? If this is a mistake, I would like to apologise in advance. If, however, my conjecture is correct, I would like to ask you some further questions.

Thanks. 24.184.85.127 23:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for delay. There is nothing personal in this IP address. It is propably is IP address of Internet cafe where I spend hours, exploring Internet. When I start going to Wikipedia, I am usually signing in first, but it happen somehow, that it lose registration. I think the same situation happened with you because instead of your User name I see only your IP. Because I have many windows from many web-sites simultaneously opened, I possibly, pay no attention to it. In editorial history of the particular page "Tourism in Uzbekistan" I did not find any other editors in addition to me and to all those who are signed. So i must recognize that those editings, mentioned by you, are also mine. But I cannot exclude, that anybody, can go edit to some place Wikipedia from the same Internet cafe as a non-signed user, because Internet cafe is large public place. Kind regards --- Dmitriy Pitirimov 09:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I have had the same thing happen to me. Some cafe's have their cookies set so it's difficult to stay signed in. I can even point out specific examples from my own history if anyone would like. I went back and replaced them with my username later. I don't see any problems and find Jabez's explaination perfectly adequate. --DanielCD 16:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Gentlemen, thank you very much for your explanation. Certainly, there is, generally, no one-to-one correspondence between IP address and the person using it; but then, again, quite a few people, even in Uzbekistan, use permanent IP addresses. Perhaps I've overestimated the number of these people in the assessment of the probability of my conjecture. In any case, I understand the situation (with internet cafes, floating IP addresses, multiple users of the same address etc.) and apologize sincerely for bothering you. Fact of the matter is, a user of that address attempted to steal my Wikipedia login. I've received an email about it, of course. Seeing that the user has failed anyway, and that the chances to talk to him or her face to face are slim, I consider the matter closed, at least for a while. I am sorry about cluttering your home page, too (but you, as the owner, can always go ahead and fix that by erasing the topic, I guess...). 24.184.85.127 03:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Dear user 24.184.85.127, you wrote that "a user of that address attempted to steal my Wikipedia login". You mean IP address that I defined as IP address of Internet cafe that I use. If it so, I can ask owner of this cafe to help in identification of the one who probably could do it. But I need an exact time when this attempt has taken place. If you provide I can try. Concerning me, I live very overt life in Internet, therefore thousands people know my name. And I highly estimate my reputation. When I work in Internet I always try to use my notebook guarded by antivirus. But let me ask you, why you use this hidden form of signing and why you don't have a personal page in Wikipedia? It is strange to me. Kind regards --- Jabez 09:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Central Asian Sites

Dear Dmitri,

I have cleaned up Gur-e Amir and Samanid mausoleum a little - I hope the changes meet with your approval. Regarding Lyab-i Khauz - do you think that this could be moved to Lyab-i Hauz? I know that X is normally transliterated as Kh from Russian, but in this case it is a Persian word, which is only written with X in Russian because there is no 'H'. In the Arabic script the word would be written as حوض, which is normally transliterated into English as 'Hauz'.Sikandarji 09:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hello Jabez : ) Thank you for adding articles and photo images to English Wikipedia. Gur-e Amir and Samanid mausoleum are great additons. Everything looks pretty good at Tourism in Uzbekistan now. I hope you keep adding this type of article and the wonderful photo images. regards, FloNight talk 12:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Не за что

Я очень рад что я мог Вам помочь в этом. Если вы пищите еще такие статьи про истории Средней Азии или о памятниках истории в Уэбекистане, пожалуйста скажите мне. Всего доброго Sikandarji 08:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Russia

Hello, and thanks for the articles you added to Wikipedia. What a pity we still don't have Ismail Samani :( If you are interested in Russia-related themes, you may want to check out the Russian Portal, particularly the Portal:Russia/New article announcements and Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board. You may even want to add these boards to your watchlist. Happy edits, Ghirla -трёп- 09:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Gates of Tashkent, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Мавзолей Самани

Здравствуйте, Дмитрий! Я поместил фото мавзолея Самани потому, что он на ней выглядит не так плоскоб как у Вас, впрочем раз Вам не очень нравиться... А что касается срока фотографии, так это мне кажеться еще более интересным, так как Википедия - это не туристический альманах, а энциклопедия знаний, посему, как мне кажется, чем больше информации - тем лучше. А на самом деле, полагаю, самая интересная фотография была бы - мавзолей внутри... А что касается Ваших изысканий, то я очень рад, что появился человек, который всерьез занялся Узбекистаном и его красотой, а то, зайдя первый раз в раздел Бухара, я был несколько разочарован его содержанием... Да, я бы с удовольствием добавил туда мемориальный комплекс Бахаутдина Накшбанди, но с моими знаниями английского и узбекского языков... ;-) Да, нас с Вами скорее всего пожурят за использование русского языка на страницах английской Википедии... Желаю успеха в продвижении родной истории и культуры в мировые массы энциклопедистов!

IPAAT 09:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)Ipaat

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[edit] TURKAN HATUN???

When i was a little girl i read a book which took place in Khorezm Empire. It's like a fairy tale and cought me with it's magic. Since then i wanted to go to Urganj to see the Tilali Garden (i found out that it's still lies under the ground in Turkmenistan and old palace have not been excavated yet).

I was looking for something about the woman called Turkan Hatun. I wanted to now more about the characters in the book and i learned a lot about Jelal Ed Din, Muhamed II, Ozlag shah... But data i found about her were very confusing.

According to that book, she was very cruel, ruled the great Khorezm Empire and she was a mother of shah Muhamed II, grand mother of a brave prince Jelal Ed Din but not very fond of him. She promoted the people of Kipchak but majority in Khorezm were Turkmenian. There was also mentioned very brave turkmen hero Kara Konchar and his maid... And that lasted untill Mongols conquered Khorezm 1221.

But now i found the information that she lived centuries ago and she was a wife of Sultan Melikshah who died in 1092.

As my country was under the Osman Empire for 500 years and their language had a great influence, i am aware that Turkan Hatun was not her real name, it's more like Turkish Lady and probably was used to describe more than one woman who had ipmact to the history of muslim people.

I would really apreciate if you know something about the Turkan Hatun who lived in Khorezm or where to find something about her.

Thanks a lot. Boka

[edit] Central Asia

WikiProject Central Asia has finally been created! If you're interested, please consider joining us. Aelfthrytha 21:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] German Wikipedia and images

Hallo Jabez! Would you please have a look at your german userpage de:Benutzer Diskussion:JabezDE and follow the advice there. Your pictures are very welcome and very beautiful, but upload at [1] would be preferable and your sources of pictures are not precies enough. Thanks for your help, --InterwikiLinksRule 20:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jabez, thank you for these great pictures. If you want to save some efford, please upload your pictues directly to Commons. Every wikipedia can use the images from there. Thanks in advance, --Flominator 13:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Your concerns about the spam blacklist

Dmitriy, I have responded to the concerns you expressed on my talk page -- see my talk page.

I also left a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam about your specific links. --A. B. (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello&Help!

Hello. My name is Tantal-ja, a Japanese Wikipedian.

I'm interested in Islam history and architecture. So I'm writing Islam architecture ver Japanese.

I hope that you contribute your taking photos to Wiki-commons, because in Japanese Wikipedia we cannot use your photos, for example, [[Image:Samanid Mausoleum.JPG]].--Tantal-ja 00:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bibi Mosque

"Encyclopedic content must be attributable to a reliable source."

Period. That does not include your random superstitions and racist remarks, whether or not you somehow feel offended by rational parties pointing out that portions of your contributions are non-encyclopedic. Rather than get into an edit war, which I nevr participate in, I will correctly flag the page as inappropriate and biased. Others can then adjust the page and you will have no basis for assuming any one person is alone in the duty to replace cruft with facts.

Talk about sins and God and other nonsense is highly inappropriate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.120.83.2 (talk) 20:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Image:Jabez.JPG

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